# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/521 "2024-06-24T09:09:30Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I would bet that a lot more people have seen memes about bidens cognitive impairment alongside deliberately misleading edits of videos of him, than are engaged in politics. And the converse of this: Some of the CEOs that recently met wit Trump were surprised at him “rambling”, and “not knowing what he was talking about”. These are people who are _supposed_ to be paying attention to things like “Is this nominee for President insane or not?”, and apparently they were surprised by the reality that is Trump. If these guys can be so steeped in the propaganda, anyone can be. Anything that might pop that bubble is a good thing. > **[CEOs at Trump meeting: Ex-president ‘meandering’ and ‘doesn't know what he's...](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html)** > > Trump offered scant details on how he would reduce taxes and cut back on business regulations, according to two people in the room. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/522 "2024-06-24T09:19:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He’s shown an increasing willingness to pander lately based on what he thinks the current audience wants to hear. He’s always done that, though. in 2016, he told the coal miners he’d bring back coal. It’s not hard to just tell people what they want to hear. The only difference now is, which people he’s pandering to. I think he knows on some level that he has to expand beyond his MAGA horde if he actually wants to win, and pandering like this is the only way he knows how to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/523 "2024-06-24T09:22:46Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Have his lackeys talked themselves into thinking that this is strength/gravitas/dignity/whatever other superlatives they might wish to lavish him with? I think this is a big factor. Take a look at some of the witnesses in his recent trial. Even as they were testifying about his crimes, a lot of them still said how proud they were of working for him, how much fun it was, and the like. Even Cohen said things like that. The delusions are powerful. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/524 "2024-06-24T10:49:58Z")
Apparently now Trump and his crew are changing course on their suggestions that Biden will be a terrible debater. No word on if Joe is better than Cicero. > **[Analysis: Why Trump is suddenly talking up Biden after months of slamming his...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/24/politics/trump-biden-debate-expectations-analysis/index.html)** > > After months lampooning President Joe Biden as a cognitively impaired “brain-dead zombie” who can’t finish a sentence or navigate off a stage, former President Donald Trump and his campaign are changing their tune days ahead of the critical debate of... ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/525 "2024-06-24T11:27:38Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > These are people who are _supposed_ to be paying attention to things like “Is this nominee for President insane or not?”, and apparently they were surprised by the reality that is Trump. If these guys can be so steeped in the propaganda, anyone can be. Ah, but who supposes that they are? They’ll tell you that’s not their job. The corporate CEO type, being pre-invested in the notion that what counts in goverment is their sweet, sweet tax and regulation cuts, is paying attention to who’s promising THAT. They have programmed themselves to focus on “serious business stuff”, not on the campaign clown show. _”And anyway the media people have always hated all of us capitalists so what’s new if they display something negative about him?”_ So they are easy to sell on the idea that it’s all bad faith exaggeration or that the candidate is just putting on the whole wacko show for the sake of views likes and votes, but once he is in the room with them, he’ll drop the act. Then they’re surprised he doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/526 "2024-06-24T13:24:09Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > No, but he talks like he should be under observation for a stay in a mental health facility. When I was a young-un, brave American judges [committed a government supremo when he talked like a crazy man](https://time.com/archive/6802266/louisiana-the-governor-goes-home/). Give a governor of Louisiana a telephone, and he could do most parts of the job from a well-run asylum (although bill-signing had to be done by the lieutenant governor). Nowadays, impossible. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/527 "2024-06-24T15:18:14Z")
Well, here we are, 3 days before the debate, which is now getting all kinds of press coverage, think pieces, pre-gaming, etc. It’s starting to become a major news story as the date draws near. I remain 100% convinced that Trump will be there, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Does the OP still think Trump will not debate on Thursday? Does any of the OP’s six-point reasoning still hold any water at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/528 "2024-06-24T16:03:15Z")
I’m cross posting this from another thread: Trump’s press secretary attacks CNN’s debate moderators while being interviewed by CNN. CNN anchor, like an SDMB mod, gave her a few chances to get back on track and then ended the interview about 30 seconds after it was started. > **[CNN Anchor Pulls Plug on Trump Staffer Interview Over Alleged Moderator Bias](https://www.tmz.com/2024/06/24/cnn-anchor-ends-interview-trump-jake-tapper-kasie-hunt/)** > > A CNN anchor became so indignant over Trump's Press Secretary criticizing the alleged bias of her CNN colleagues who will moderate Thursday's Presidential debate, she pulled the plug on the interview! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/529 "2024-06-24T16:08:38Z")
Well, now we see the trump campaign’s, and therefore trump’s tactics, for this event. Shout from minute one fully intending to be quickly switched off then later claim he was censored and silenced and all those other bad things. Pure paranoia feeding into pure revenge plays well to the scared Reactionary Right. ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/530 "2024-06-24T16:09:30Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > > > Remember, Trump has Secret Service protection too. I do not want to think of what happens if Biden’s SS detail and Trump’s SS detail need to square-off against each other (to the point I wonder if anyone inside of the SS has contemplated this and discussed what to do if it ever happens). > > Picture the Jets facing off with the Sharks. My mind immediately went to the “Beat It” video. Gonna be scrubbing that mental image for a while. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/531 "2024-06-24T16:17:34Z")
> [@](#): > > [CNN Anchor Pulls Plug on Trump Staffer Interview Over Alleged Moderator Bias](https://www.tmz.com/2024/06/24/cnn-anchor-ends-interview-trump-jake-tapper-kasie-hunt/) On this video, Katie Hunt says “If you’re attacking the moderators you’re usually losing.” I’m posting this now since even though it may be more relevant on Thursday night after the debate. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/532 "2024-06-24T16:19:51Z")
I agree. There will basically be three answers that he will give depending on the question. Foreign policy: Everyone thinks America is a joke thanks to Biden, with me in charge America will realize they can’t push us around anymore. My mere presence in the white house will stop all of these wars. Domestic Policy: Life was great when I was president, now American cities are a hell hole of crime due to Biden’s importing illegals, and the economy is in the shitter. But everything will get better once I’m in the white house. Illegal immigrants will disappear, there will be no crime, prices will go back to pre-pandemic levels and everyone will be rich. Legal issues: Corrupt Biden DOJ! Witch Hunt! Politically Motivated! Banana Republic! Biden Crime Family! Hunter! Hunter! Hunter! LAPTOP! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/533 "2024-06-24T16:41:01Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Remember, Trump has Secret Service protection too. I do not want to think of what happens if Biden’s SS detail and Trump’s SS detail need to square-off against each other (to the point I wonder if anyone inside of the SS has contemplated this and discussed what to do if it ever happens). The logical answer is each security detail forms a protective cordon around their guy and tries to hustle him away from the other group. It’ll be oil and water separating, not a scrum pushing into a common center. Remember that while e.g. trump might want to physically intimidate or attack Biden, trump’s SS team will not. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/534 "2024-06-24T17:01:41Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > > [@Stratocaster](#): > > > > Picture the Jets facing off with the Sharks. > > My mind immediately went to the “Beat It” video. Gonna be scrubbing that mental image for a while. But picture Jack Smith in the Michael Jackson role at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/535 "2024-06-24T18:45:08Z")
Trump has picked his running mate and apparently hasn’t told them yet. > When asked if the person he has picked is aware, the former president responded, “No, nobody knows.” > (snip) > “They’ll be there,” [at the debate] the former president added. “I think we have a lot of people coming.” I don’t know what the actual question was, but I assumed he just flubbed the response. However, thinking about it again, I don’t think that’s the case. I think he hasn’t told anyone yet because he hasn’t decided yet and his ‘they’ll be at the debate’ comment is him just making sure anyone who wants the job shows up at the debate to support him. Also, I saw the article on my local news site (a fox affiliate) but I’m linking to the identical one here because I think it’s funny that Fox News referred this mystery person as “they”. > **[Donald Trump has picked his running mate and they will be at Thursday's debate](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-donald-trump-told-us-weekend-about-his-search-running-mate)** > > Former President Trump says he knows who he will choose as his running mate, but says he has yet to reveal to anyone the name of that choice. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/536 "2024-06-24T18:52:23Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I think he hasn’t told anyone yet because he hasn’t decided yet and his ‘they’ll be at the debate’ comment is him just making sure anyone who wants the job shows up at the debate to support him. I think you’re 100% correct about this. But I’m wondering how large an entourage each candidate is allowed to bring. If Trump brings in 200 Republicans all hoping to be named VP and Biden brings in 10 staff or family members, then Trump has effectively provided himself with an audience–a cheering section. And there isn’t supposed to be an audience at this thing. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > Also, I saw the article on my local news site (a fox affiliate) but I’m linking to the identical one here because I think it’s funny that Fox News referred this mystery person as “they”. Great catch! Those damned woke FoxNews people are RUINING this country with their stupid PRONOUNS!!!1!!! ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/537 "2024-06-24T19:01:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But I’m wondering how large an entourage each candidate is allowed to bring I’m guessing only a handful will show up. Probably the same people that dressed up like him and showed up at the courthouse, plus a handful of others. Related: Is Vivek both running against him AND hoping to be his VP? Is that a (normal) thing? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/538 "2024-06-24T19:11:23Z")
Will the entourage be prohibited from making noises that can be picked up by the mics? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/539 "2024-06-24T19:12:08Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is Vivek both running against him AND hoping to be his VP? Is that a (normal) thing? So far as I know, Ramaswamy’s suspended campaign has not been re-opened since he closed it in January. But, yeah, primary opponents through at least modern history have become VP picks. In Vivek’s case he’d be a dark horse indeed as Trump has explicitly ruled him out, from the news stories I’m seeing. By the way, Donald is already posturing as the Biggest Bully on the Block–the guy who’s actually in charge of all that will happen Thursday night: > [@](#): > > Trump was on the campaign trail over the weekend, appearing at a rally in Philadelphia on Saturday where he quipped about his coming debate with the president. > “How should I handle him? Should I be tough and nasty?” Trump said. “Should I be tough and nasty and just say ‘you’re the worst president in history’? Or should I be nice and calm and let him speak?” Of course his rally-goers thrilled to his Dominance. What a guy! > **[Biden and Trump face off this week in the first presidential debate. Here's...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-presidential-debate-biden-trump-structure-prep/)** > > President Biden and former President Donald are set to once again face off on Thursday as the campaign heats up. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/540 "2024-06-24T19:14:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Will the entourage be prohibited from making noises that can be picked up by the mics? Of course they should be. Otherwise, how will this debate be any different from ones with an audience of partisan-and-vocal fans? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=28)