# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/541 "2024-06-24T19:20:42Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Of course they should be. That phrase means absolutely nothing when it comes to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/542 "2024-06-24T19:23:27Z")
From CNN: > South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem had some advice for the ex-president on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “I don’t think he has to get personal in this debate at all because he’s going to have so many good things to talk about, in contrast with Joe Biden’s policies,” she said. Good things to talk about? Like what? Electrocution by a boat? Sharks? Pitting refugees against each other Gladiator style? Huffing bleach into your lungs? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/543 "2024-06-24T19:33:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That phrase means absolutely nothing when it comes to Trump. Well, that’s the thing. That’s the reason for my original comment about ‘nothing in the rules that would keep Donald at his podium.’ He will do anything that he thinks will give him an advantage. It’s therefore up to CNN, and ultimately to the Biden folks, to think about these things in advance and have an effective counter-measure available. It’s not that Trump is smart, of course. But as many have observed, he’s canny about being underhanded. He gets away with shit because no one imagined in advance that he could possibly do [whatever it is]. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/544 "2024-06-24T19:51:53Z")
Looking at the way the two sides maneuvered in advance of the 2020 debates, the Trump accusation centered not on the possibility of help for Biden via drugs, but instead via electronic cheating: > **[Trump ads push baseless Biden earpiece conspiracy](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54360612)** > > New Facebook advertising paid for by the Trump campaign makes unfounded claims about his opponent. They always have to make up something. Trump knows he can’t win a fair contest. ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/545 "2024-06-24T19:57:48Z")
I forget. What’s the standard excuse that Biden must submit a drug test (or IQ test or whatever), but Trump is exempt? A direct comparison of the results would be droll. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/546 "2024-06-24T19:58:33Z")
So we should be looking out for Trump wearing an earpiece, it seems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/547 "2024-06-24T20:01:15Z")
Trump’s pee is under audit. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/548 "2024-06-24T20:02:36Z")
Well, in 2020, for sure. (DID anyone check, I wonder?) But in 2024, since they’re _not_ accusing Biden of that, they probably _don’t_ plan to use the earpiece-cheating idea. It’s the principle of Economy of Smelt It/Dealt It. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/549 "2024-06-24T20:03:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Good things to talk about? Like what? Electrocution by a boat? Sharks? Pitting refugees against each other Gladiator style? Huffing bleach into your lungs? You sure won’t read about this stuff in the lamestream media. Thank God for our orange truth-teller. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/550 "2024-06-24T21:04:36Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > I think he hasn’t told anyone yet because he hasn’t decided yet and his ‘they’ll be at the debate’ comment is him just making sure anyone who wants the job shows up at the debate to support him. > > I think you’re 100% correct about this. But I’m wondering how large an entourage each candidate is allowed to bring. If Trump brings in 200 Republicans all hoping to be named VP and Biden brings in 10 staff or family members, then Trump has effectively provided himself with an audience–a cheering section. And there isn’t supposed to be an audience at this thing. > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > Also, I saw the article on my local news site (a fox affiliate) but I’m linking to the identical one here because I think it’s funny that Fox News referred this mystery person as “they”. > > Great catch! Those damned woke FoxNews people are RUINING this country with their stupid PRONOUNS!!!1!!! Just because they are at the location of the debate doesn’t mean they will be allowed to be in the room. I would be extremely surprised if anyone is allowed. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > From CNN: > > > South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem had some advice for the ex-president on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “I don’t think he has to get personal in this debate at all because he’s going to have so many good things to talk about, in contrast with Joe Biden’s policies,” she said. > > Good things to talk about? Like what? Electrocution by a boat? Sharks? Pitting refugees against each other Gladiator style? Huffing bleach into your lungs? Well it is almost Shark Week. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/551 "2024-06-24T21:08:16Z")
This is at least something sorta new (well, new to me at any rate). Up to now, Fox has been busy laying the foundations of why Biden did so well in the debate - just like the SOTU address - on the premise _that he was jacked up on drugs._ ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/552 "2024-06-24T21:10:48Z")
Soon to be jail-bird, Steve Bannon, has some thoughts on Trump’s debate appearance: > ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/553 "2024-06-24T21:35:14Z")
Wasn’t there a debate in the last cycle where a right-wing media craptastic site actually made a small mistake, and published the article that said Trump was masterful and won the debate _the day before the debate actually took place?_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/554 "2024-06-24T21:42:48Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Just because they are at the location of the debate doesn’t mean they will be allowed to be in the room. I would be extremely surprised if anyone is allowed. Same here. From what I understand, the only people in the studio will be the moderators, Trump and Biden, and technical people (e.g. camera operators). I suppose a few Secret Service folks too. But no audience, no advisors, no staff, no fellow party-members, no sycophants, nobody. “Okay, here we are at the CNN studios. Sorry, but you guys will have to wait on the bus.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/555 "2024-06-24T21:55:54Z")
I’m sure we’ll see Twitter posts about how they’re “occupying” the studios because “Biden’s DOJ” won’t let them into the debate. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/556 "2024-06-24T21:56:00Z")
They might not be in the room, they’ll be just outside the room or just outside the building, but all they need is a camera to talk to so they can sing his praises the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/557 "2024-06-24T23:15:11Z")
It seems to me that Trump’s plan is to turn this into a press conference about his amazing choice for the VP slot. This is the plan to suck the oxygen out of the room. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/558 "2024-06-24T23:16:51Z")
Looks frantically around room. “My VP pick is… Sleepy Joe. No, wait… damn it!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/559 "2024-06-24T23:28:46Z")
His VP pick will be Man Woman Camera TV Person. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/560 "2024-06-24T23:54:16Z")
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