# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/561 "2024-06-25T00:05:04Z")
I was thinking the same thing about an hour ago. This thread is way funnier than the late night comedy shows. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/562 "2024-06-25T00:08:11Z")
Bisexual and in transition #3 camera operator Billie? Have they accepted the position yet? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/563 "2024-06-25T09:27:25Z")
“They’ve given Mr. Trump both middle fingers in the air from behind the camera quite vigorously. Is that “gay code” for yes?” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/564 "2024-06-25T09:30:01Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > “They’ve given Mr. Trump both middle fingers in the air from behind the camera quite vigorously. Is that “gay code” for yes?” “You’re number one!!” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/565 "2024-06-25T10:55:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Well, now we see the trump campaign’s, and therefore trump’s tactics, for this event. Shout from minute one fully intending to be quickly switched off then later claim he was censored and silenced and all those other bad things. This. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/566 "2024-06-25T13:41:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem had some advice for the ex-president on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “I don’t think he has to get personal in this debate at all because he’s going to have so many good things to talk about, in contrast with Joe Biden’s policies,” she said. > > Good things to talk about? Like what? Electrocution by a boat? Sharks? Pitting refugees against each other Gladiator style? Huffing bleach into your lungs? “And definitely don’t talk about how you murdered your dog. Believe me, that one can blow up in your face.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/567 "2024-06-25T13:48:34Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Believe me, that one can blow up in your face.” That’s what her dog said! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/568 "2024-06-25T14:02:56Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Apparently now Trump and his crew are changing course on their suggestions that Biden will be a terrible debater. Trump has apparently set out his new story line. He could, of course, devastate Biden in a debate if he chose. But if he did so, the Democrats would choose another candidate. So Trump will intentionally do poorly in the debate so Biden will remain the candidate and Trump can go on to win the election. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/569 "2024-06-25T14:04:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has apparently set out his new story line. He could, of course, devastate Biden in a debate if he chose. But if he did so, the Democrats would choose another candidate. So Trump will intentionally do poorly in the debate so Biden will remain the candidate and Trump can go on to win the election Doesn’t that imply that he’d lose against someone else? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/570 "2024-06-25T14:07:10Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Doesn’t that imply that he’d lose against someone else? No fair pointing out the logical inconsistencies in a Trump plan. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/571 "2024-06-25T14:22:41Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has apparently set out his new story line. He could, of course, devastate Biden in a debate if he chose. But if he did so, the Democrats would choose another candidate. So Trump will intentionally do poorly in the debate so Biden will remain the candidate and Trump can go on to win the election. You have to admit there are certain apparently sincere Chicken Littles here on this board who make an essentially similar argument: Biden will certainly lose to trump so the Ds need to come up with _any_one else. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/572 "2024-06-25T14:27:49Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But in 2024, since they’re _not_ accusing Biden of that, they probably _don’t_ plan to use the earpiece-cheating idea. Here’s the thing about cognitive decline: Things like this, to help combat cognitive decline, often don’t actually work, _because of the cognitive decline._ The whole point is that you’re just not processing information correctly any more, and so even if you have someone whispering in your ear, you’ll just fail to process that new information as well. In fact, it would probably fail spectacularly, as it would distract him from what’s in front of him. I’ve seen this with my own mom lately. She’s at the stage where she’s forgetting which words she wants to use sometimes, and if you interrupt her to say, “Oh, you mean X”, all it does is make her more confused. It’s frustrating, but you have to make yourself take a step back and let her process as best she can, unless it’s something really urgent. This is why things like that MoCA cognitive test can be publicly available, and still be a useful diagnostic tool: If you’re capable of reading the test ahead of time, and remembering what you need to do on the test, you’re not experiencing significant cognitive decline. If you are in decline, it’s basically impossible for you to “study” for such a test, because you won’t remember anything by the time you take the test. The disease makes it nearly impossible to cheat like this. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/573 "2024-06-25T14:28:15Z")
Trump wants a drug test, beforehand. Is this gonna be his out …? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/574 "2024-06-25T14:29:12Z")
Why would he want one? By the available accounts, he’d fail miserably ETA: Oh, for Biden, I realize now. Sure, I guess that’s an “out” but they’ve already been prepping several. His supporters will buy whatever line he tosses out anyway, so any excuse is as good as another for them. But there are a lot of people out there who still think he’s ‘normal’ who would probably want a better excuse. His team should be smart enough to realize the drug testing thing only plays to the base, but ‘should’ is a dangerous assumption about them sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/575 "2024-06-25T15:03:38Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Why would he want one? By the available accounts, he’d fail miserably That’s what I was saying for a while, but thinking about it again, he probably won’t. The general assumption, I think, is that a drug test is going to show a positive result for amphetamines (ie Adderall). And it might, but if he can provide proof to the testing facility that he has a prescription for it, he’ll still pass and we’ll probably never know about the positive result. If he doesn’t already have a script for it, I’m sure he can find a doctor to write one. I’m curious what Trump’s end game with that was since it’s unlikely that Biden would fail the test or back out of the debate to avoid it. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > His team should be smart Agreed, but they burned that bridge a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/576 "2024-06-25T15:09:52Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > if he can provide proof to the testing facility that he has a prescription for it, he’ll still pass and we’ll probably never know about the positive result. If he doesn’t already have a script for it, I’m sure he can find a doctor to write one. But Biden could do the same, if he were using drugs as accused. Hell, being the President, I’d assume he’d already have all the needed prescriptions, before this even became an issue. Why would anyone involved in such a scheme leave anything to chance on this? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/577 "2024-06-25T15:11:59Z")
“Ask your doctor if Debatrex™ is right for you.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/578 "2024-06-25T15:14:59Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Why would anyone involved in such a scheme leave anything to chance on this? “We demand you give us your blood so our hand picked doctors can confirm what we already know - you are on illegal performance enhancing drugs. Oh, you won’t? This is a travesty and a sham!” ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/579 "2024-06-25T15:29:46Z")
I just have to say that this whole “Biden’s on performance-enhancing drugs” narrative is the stupidest GOP talking point ever. And I don’t use _stupidest_ lightly, despite there being lots of competition. First of all, it’s just so, so unlikely he’s on drugs at all. Second, there are no drugs that can transform a doddering old man with dementia into an energetic, forceful speaker with a sharp intellect. Third, even if it were all true, who cares? Aren’t Republicans all about winning at all costs? Hell, I _want_ my president to be at his best, no matter what it takes. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/580 "2024-06-25T16:00:43Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Is this gonna be his out …? Another potential out comes from one of his spokespersons beefing with CNN. In the midst of an interview, the Trump campaign person was talking mad shit about CNN’s bias and the host basically had to hang up them. Trump’s camp is _outraged_ by this bias and reserves the right to cancel the debate based on CNN’s terrible behavior. Theoretically it makes Trump look like he is standing up for his people by walking away which I know is ridiculous on its face but the MAGA crowd would eat it up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=30)