# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\
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Ok I’ll start it.

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If you mean starting a new thread when the debate begins, it’s fine with me, if you meant can we tighten this one up, that’s fine with me, too, whatever the consensus.

But I’d add that since this thread made it to 600 just basically punting around 3-4 possibilities, it’s no surprise it got silly, which is also fine with me.

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Thanks!

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I figure the other one can be for discussions about what will happen during the debate like speculation about the format and questions and answers as well as discussion during the debate. The question of if Trump will actually debate is still a valid one.

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The question has been asked where I am at…

It’s complicated, since time has passed, increasing the percentage chance that Trump shows, in my view, while the excuses / groundwork-laying / expectations-lowering has continued from many different surrogates and Trump himself at a furious pace.

My gut is 60% no-show at this point.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/606 "2024-06-25T22:06:36Z")

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He essentially told everyone that wants to be his VP to show up at the debate. If puts out a message tonight or tomorrow that he’s got a rally or some other event next week and “I’m not telling you who my next VP is yet, but they’ll be there”, I’d bet he’s skipping the debate.

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Convict Donald has no idea who his running mate is going to be. His campaign has no internal search going on as far as I can tell and if he’d already settled on someone he would’ve said so because he’s incapable of keeping secrets. I half-expect him to pick someone utterly unacceptable, like Flynn or Eric, and trigger an all-out revolt at the convention.

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If he doesn’t show up it’s going to ruin the watch party I have planned.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I half-expect him to pick someone utterly unacceptable, like Flynn or Eric, and trigger an all-out revolt at the convention.

That’s what I was thinking as well. At some point between now and the RNC, a reporter is going to back him into a corner/call his bluff and make him name someone, and it’ll be someone stupid.  
I assume his people have shortlist with their best candidates that way he’s not picking the first person he thinks of. But I’d laugh if he accidentally said Hillary or Obama or sleepy Joe.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I assume his people have shortlist with their best candidates that way he’s not picking the first person he thinks of.

He’s still most likely going to pick the last person he can think of that said nice things to him. IIRC that was how Bannon got him to pick Pence.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/611 "2024-06-25T23:08:07Z")

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The latest theory now is Biden on Mountain Dew!

[https://www.mediaite.com/tv/house-republican-compares-biden-to-a-dementia-patient-warns-he-will-be-jacked-up-on-mountain-dew-for-debate/](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/house-republican-compares-biden-to-a-dementia-patient-warns-he-will-be-jacked-up-on-mountain-dew-for-debate/)

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I’m still thinking he chickens out.

> **[Will Trump chicken out of the presidential debate? Probably. He's a Grade-A...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/06/25/trump-biden-presidential-debate-cnn-rigged/74195698007/)**
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> The breathless advance coverage of this week's presidential debate has overlooked one key question: Will Donald Trump actually show up?

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Hmm, I surely wish that magic dementia fixing drug was around when my father in law needed it.

Incidentally, Hubster saw a movement specialist who administered a short cognitive test. One of the questions was, name the months of the year in reverse order. He did fine. On the other hand I’m glad she didn’t ask me.

trup’ll be there. It’s sure to be a shit show.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> or sleepy Joe.

“I put Sleepy joe on the ticket, so that half of those stupid demosocialcommies would vote for us by accident. 6D checkers!”

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> The latest theory now is Biden on Mountain Dew!

Did they? The only thing I see in that article is " The lunkheaded speculation runs from simple caffeine to cocaine to vague “performance-enhancing drugs.”"

If they’re actually suggesting caffeine, I assume that’s the backup for when his test is negative for amphetamines/cocaine. And that’s if they even go through with a drug test, which I doubt.

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I have a cheeseball recipe I can give you; that will help.

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It was too late for Trump to back out two weeks ago and it’s WAY too late for him to back out now. He’d be giving Biden 90 minutes of free uninterrupted airtime. There’s no time to book a rally or schedule an event on a friendly channel. The most he’d be able to do on less than 48 hours notice is a phone interview on Newsmax or some chud podcast.

He’ll be there, because in his mind he’s going to win bigly.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I assume that’s the backup for when his test is negative for amphetamines/cocaine

AND Pixy Stix.

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> The latest theory now is Biden on Mountain Dew!

Mtn Dew has about half the caffeine as a cup of coffee. 55mg.

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In a guest column in today’s New York Times, Hillary Clinton previewed the debate, and said

> [@Hillary](#):
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> … expectations for [Trump] are so low that if he doesn’t literally light himself on fire on Thursday evening, some will say he was downright presidential.

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