# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/641 "2024-06-26T14:41:22Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > And Trump’ll pull an envelope out of his pocket at some point and say “The winner is… Not transactional enough. He’ll be more “The Price is Right”, where you “Come on down!” to compete with the others. Whoever bids the most wins! ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/642 "2024-06-26T14:57:33Z")
The “hopped up on stimulants” charge is simply cover for the multi-year lie that Sleepy Joe is mentally incompetent. Right wing media will never allow the truth to impede its agenda and credibility with the True Believers. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/643 "2024-06-26T14:57:42Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > He essentially told everyone that wants to be his VP to show up at the debate. If puts out a message tonight or tomorrow that he’s got a rally or some other event next week and “I’m not telling you who my next VP is yet, but they’ll be there”, I’d bet he’s skipping the debate. > > Not sure if this has been addressd in another thread, but I thought there’s no live audience for this debate, right? So how will this VP unveiling happen? Will there be a green room for each candidate’s entourage, with cameras showing their reactions throughout? And Trump’ll pull an envelope out of his pocket at some point and say “The winner is…(you know, I liked the Oscars better when they said ‘and the winner is’ instead they changed it to ‘the Oscar goes to’, this is why nobody watches them any more, Jimmy Kimmel SAD!)” and one person in the other room stands up and runs up the aisle…oh wait. But seriously, will something like this play out? He just has to shoehorn it into any question. They know that will become the biggest story of the night. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/644 "2024-06-26T14:58:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Or make it the Best Watch Party Ever Rolexes, Omegas, Audemars, Breitlings, and Hublots? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/645 "2024-06-26T15:03:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > He just has to shoehorn it into any question. They know that will become the biggest story of the night. But why? Who cares who Trump picks as his VP? It’s going to be some bland, generic toady like Mike Pence except this time screened to ensure he will follow illegal orders. I know the media is going to spend anywhere from a day to a week breathlessly discussing the impact of an event that should merit about as much attention as stepping on a dog turd. I suppose there could be some illuminating discussion around whether or not this VP will have the stones to use the 25th Amendment on Trump when (not if) it becomes necessary and I’d love to hear them ask lots of questions about what almost happened to Mike Pence but I wouldn’t expect any kind of honest answer from the VP candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/646 "2024-06-26T15:27:29Z")
I don’t think he’s announcing the person at the debate, he just said that they’ll be there.\* In other words “If you want this job, be at the debate on Thursday”. It’s very possible he forgot that there wouldn’t be an audience (as did I), but I don’t think it really matters. I think he’s just likes making them do stuff to prove how much they adore him. And that’s always been the case with him. If you want him to do something for you, first you have to do something for him, then he’ll consider (ignore) your request. Also, anyone willing to kiss his ass this much is exactly who he wants in front of a camera speaking his praises. \*and I’m not even entirely sure he said that on purpose. Also, he claims he already picked someone but hasn’t told anyone, including that person, who it is yet. Which is why the “they’ll be at the debate” line is going to get a bunch of people to show up. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/647 "2024-06-26T15:40:10Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > He just has to shoehorn it into any question. They know that will become the biggest story of the night. > > But why? Who cares who Trump picks as his VP? It’s going to be some bland, generic toady like Mike Pence except this time screened to ensure he will follow illegal orders. I know the media is going to spend anywhere from a day to a week breathlessly discussing the impact of an event that should merit about as much attention as stepping on a dog turd. I suppose there could be some illuminating discussion around whether or not this VP will have the stones to use the 25th Amendment on Trump when (not if) it becomes necessary and I’d love to hear them ask lots of questions about what almost happened to Mike Pence but I wouldn’t expect any kind of honest answer from the VP candidate. You answered your own question. Who cares? Every news organization. The rest of the country who doesn’t think like the average SDMB reader. I’m not saying I’m sure he will announce it then but I think it would be a smart move. It would take focus off of his dumb answers. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/648 "2024-06-26T15:40:38Z")
We’ll find out tomorrow if the OP is right. The debate will probably happen, but with Trump you never know. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/649 "2024-06-26T15:51:10Z")
My prediction: Trump shows up, tries to turn it into a Trump Media Event, is shut down, walks away…and claims he was kicked out. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/650 "2024-06-26T16:05:19Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I don’t think he’s announcing the person at the debate, he just said that they’ll be there So it will be one of the moderators, one cameraman or Biden? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/651 "2024-06-26T16:25:00Z")
> [@Mikkel](#): > > So it will be one of the moderators, one cameraman or Biden? Or someone standing outside the studio. He never said the person would be on camera or in the studio, just that they would be there. Also, just as a reminder, this speculation is entirely based on this exchange: > The former president told [NBC News](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-says-knows-presidential-selection-will-rcna158457) at a campaign stop in Philadelphia over the weekend that his future running mate — who remains unconfirmed — will “most likely” attend the upcoming presidential debate. > > “They’ll be there,” he told the outlet. “I think we have a lot of people coming.” > > Trump clarified that he has decided on his running mate in his “mind,” but “nobody knows” of his pick yet. IMO, that’s a call to action. He’s telling his potential VPs that if they want to be in the running, they’ll be there. I doubt he really cares about the logistics, he just likes making them jump. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/652 "2024-06-26T16:26:04Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m not saying I’m sure he will announce it then but I think it would be a smart move. It would take focus off of his dumb answers. I’m hoping he announces his VP pick is someone idiotic; A dead person, a fictional character (Hanibal Lecter?), Don Jr., Bannon, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/653 "2024-06-26T17:13:52Z")
Tag Heuer is invited to, I hope. As for his VP pick, I don’t believe he has a clue. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/654 "2024-06-26T18:23:27Z")
Yep, that’s me. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/655 "2024-06-26T18:46:15Z")
I’m afraid it will be Vance. He’s a slick fascist. Will the Hitler quote stop it? There’s no bottom now. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/656 "2024-06-26T18:51:11Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > a fictional character (Hanibal Lecter?) I believe Lecter wasn’t born in the U.S, and so is ineligible. Among other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/657 "2024-06-26T18:53:43Z")
Moderating: Let’s leave this thread for discussing the likelihood of Trump debating Biden, please. Speculation re Trump VP picks should go in this thread: > [@Who will be Trump's running mate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate/996511): > > Trump has said that he has picked his running mate, but has not yet named them. Lets have speculation as to who it could be. Some people have speculated Tucker Carlson, and some have speculated MTG. Either one of them would be a nightmare scenario if Trump dies in office, and they take over. I would like to offer my own speculation. Having been betrayed by Pence, Trump will want someone he can trust to follow orders. There’s only one person that Trump would trust: Donald Trump Junior. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/658 "2024-06-26T19:05:21Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > I’m afraid it will be Vance. He’s a slick fascist. Will the Hitler quote stop it? There’s no bottom now. Vance would be deeply concerning but I think Trump wouldn’t go that route, he’d feel at risk of being overshadowed/outflanked by Vance. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/659 "2024-06-26T19:15:51Z")
Aside from the fact that (as Aspenglow reminds us) there is another thread for speculation about who Trump will choose as VP-candidate: the most important thing about the topic coming up now is that Trump NEEDS people to be talking about it… so that there will be less time to talk about his horrifying performance at the debate. **He _knows_ that his performance will be horrifying.** If he had any confidence at all that he would perform well, he’d want nothing–no other topic–to take the focus away from his wonderful debate performance. But: no. He knows. He _knows_ he will need this distraction. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/660 "2024-06-26T19:23:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Aside from the fact that (as Aspenglow reminds us) there is another thread for speculation about who Trump will choose as VP-candidate: the most important thing about the topic coming up now is that Trump NEEDS people to be talking about it… so that there will be less time to talk about his horrifying performance at the debate. > > **He _knows_ that his performance will be horrifying.** > > If he had any confidence at all that he would perform well, he’d want nothing–no other topic–to take the focus away from his wonderful debate performance. > > But: no. He knows. He _knows_ he will need this distraction. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it won’t be horrifying (though that depends on your definition of the word). His answers will be empty and hollow but not particularly interesting. It’s not hard to answer every question with some form of “I did it the best, lots of people are saying the best ever” and “Sleepy Joe is doing it the worst, people say he’s the worst president ever.” He may be in decline but it doesn’t take much to give answers like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493.md?page=34)