# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/701 "2024-06-27T17:18:43Z")

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Any online telecast?

Our tv remote has been dead for 2 years now, so no tv. Neither of us miss the television enough to expend the tiny effort to fix the issue.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/702 "2024-06-27T17:22:06Z")

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8/7 Central/Mountain. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/703 "2024-06-27T17:22:50Z")

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[cnn.com](http://cnn.com) is likely streaming it.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/704 "2024-06-27T17:24:34Z")

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Thanks! We will be watching on my iPad. Got a case of Dale’s Pale Ale and will be picking up a pizza.

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/705 "2024-06-27T17:35:35Z")

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Heh. Nice. I think me and The Lady of Wisdom are going with grilled salmon and chard. Something light, in case The Traitor does his thing and comes up with something particularly bilesome.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/706 "2024-06-27T17:49:18Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I don’t expect him to be eloquent. I don’t expect him to be intelligent. I just think that expecting him to be much worse than he has been in past debates is a little unrealistic. By any measure Trump has never won a debate but that’s largely forgotten by Election Day. I do hope he will do something that can’t be ignored by any but the most ardent cult member but I doubt it will happen.

My hope is that his dementia is so apparent that the MSM will feel obligated to report on it now and keep reporting on it. I think that’s the best possible result, other than perhaps Trump passing out on stage.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/707 "2024-06-27T18:08:54Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Re: Trump not knowing the word “rebuttal” as an indicator of his senility: maybe he’s just stupid.

I have never thought Trump was stupid. He’s never been an intellectual giant, he’s not curious, is incapable of listening to actual experts who don’t say what he wants to hear, and of course there are more problems but I don’t want to be here all day. But I don’t think he’s actually a stupid man.

He’s always said outrageous stuff that would have sank the careers of most other politicians, but for the most part those outrageous statements made some sense. “Grab 'em by the pussy.” Makes sense. “I like people who weren’t shot down.” Makes sense. But now he’s talking about scenarios with electric boats and having to choose being electrocuted or eaten by sharks. Doens’t make sense. Something is wrong with the guy that wasn’t apparent in 2016.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/708 "2024-06-27T18:17:47Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > I don’t expect him to be eloquent. I don’t expect him to be intelligent. I just think that expecting him to be much worse than he has been in past debates is a little unrealistic. By any measure Trump has never won a debate but that’s largely forgotten by Election Day. I do hope he will do something that can’t be ignored by any but the most ardent cult member but I doubt it will happen.
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> My hope is that his dementia is so apparent that the MSM will feel obligated to report on it now and keep reporting on it. I think that’s the best possible result, other than perhaps Trump passing out on stage.

That’s my hope as well but I think that having questions to answer rather than 90 minutes to fill with whatever random thoughts pop into his head will focus him to the point he doesn’t do anything outrageous. But we can hope.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/709 "2024-06-27T18:21:27Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Something is wrong with the guy that wasn’t apparent in 2016.

Apparently just the filter. Those aren’t new things. He’s apparently had some weird deep seated fears and fetishes for years. Just better at keeping them from public view. Not being President helps with the scrutiny, of course. Most of us have probably seen that in other older folks - their filters tend to malfunction.

While I won’t say he’s a drooling idiot, if you have to choose, he’s probably always been on the dim side rather than the bright, but not by all that much. You can’t be very smart while drinking your own Kool-Aid.

Either way, he’s probably going to say some inane stuff tonight but it also likely won’t matter.

But now that he’s almost certain to show up, I’m thinking ahead to the “thereafter” in the thread title. I imagine if he does very poorly, he still shows up to the next one. If nothing else, he does like being aggressive, even it means setting himself up to walk into situations he’s not well suited for.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/710 "2024-06-27T18:29:47Z")

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Masochists, the lot of ya. I’ll follow along in the follow along thread at most.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/711 "2024-06-27T19:37:32Z")

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If it’s closed-caption, I might tune in and just mute for Trump, although even the sight of him turns my stomach, so probably not.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/712 "2024-06-27T21:14:21Z")

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> **[Daily Cartoon: Wednesday, June 26th](https://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/wednesday-june-26th-five-words?mbid=social_facebook&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=tny)**
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> “And then, for the last question, we’ll ask them to repeat the five words we gave them at the start.”

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/713 "2024-06-27T21:26:47Z")

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Well, here we are just hours before the debate, and it looks like Trump has not yet weaseled out of it. Damn. I told some friends of mine he’d be backing out, because of this thread, but here we are. Damn.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/714 "2024-06-27T21:40:45Z")

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Maybe his motorcade will get stuck in traffic.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/715 "2024-06-27T21:55:57Z")

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Is Hot Pants Hillard still doing her thing? [Maybe we could arrange for that to happen](https://youtu.be/B8TtWBDdjLQ?t=128)?

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/716 "2024-06-28T00:22:29Z")

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I’m getting ready to say I’m wrong here…

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/717 "2024-06-28T00:30:31Z")

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I will consider you to be technically correct if Trump storms offstage in a huff of foul-scented outrage at any point during the debate.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/718 "2024-06-28T00:33:32Z")

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What if it is a minute and a huff?

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/719 "2024-06-28T00:38:08Z")

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We’ll huff to make a decision then.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/720 "2024-06-28T00:40:15Z")

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I read that as outage.

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