# Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493 "2024-06-05T01:26:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/721 "2024-06-28T00:40:39Z")

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Don’t give up! There’s still time for the weasel to Trump out of this.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/722 "2024-06-28T00:44:30Z")

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That certainly seems like a possibility.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/723 "2024-06-28T00:45:14Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I will consider you to be technically correct if Trump storms offstage in a huff of foul-scented outrage at any point during the debate.

Me too.

Plus, if the only time Trump debates is one time in June, that’s so far in advance of the election as to hardly count as participating in debates.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/724 "2024-06-28T01:04:11Z")

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WRONG! I was.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/725 "2024-06-28T01:16:04Z")

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“We beat Medicare.”

Well, Biden’s off to a great start.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/726 "2024-06-28T01:20:28Z")

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Yep, the debate is on, there is a new thread.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/727 "2024-06-28T01:30:17Z")

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Dangit, thought I was in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/728 "2024-06-28T01:30:44Z")

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I guess it’s too late for me to hold out hope that Trump won’t debate.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/729 "2024-06-28T01:35:16Z")

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Yep. Let’s see how the other prediction works out.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/730 "2024-06-28T01:41:45Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> I’ll keep this one simple\*: Trump will weasel out of debating Biden this month, since Trump and those in his circle know that doing so would be grossly to his disadvantage. Here are the basic reasons:

Well, here we are, prediction falsified. I take no pleasure in noting it. Biden’s doing much worse than I hoped, while Trump is doing much better.

I’d guess that after this debate, there’ll be a lot of folks flipping their opinions about whether debates matter anymore.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/731 "2024-06-28T02:33:53Z")

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I’d like to take a victory lap at this time on the claims that Trump was gonna barge across the stage and steal Biden’s mic.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/732 "2024-06-28T06:18:50Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Well, here we are, prediction falsified. I take no pleasure in noting it. Biden’s doing much worse than I hoped, while Trump is doing much better.

Yup, I wish Biden had chickened the fuck out.

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> I’d guess that after this debate, there’ll be a lot of folks flipping their opinions about whether debates matter anymore.

Yes. It mattered.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/733 "2024-06-28T06:32:37Z")

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Actually, this thread OP isn’t all that wrong. It would be in Trump’s best interests to refuse to debate Biden again after this one. He already won Round One and the subsequent Rounds 2-4 could only represent a chance for Biden to claw back lost ground.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/734 "2024-06-28T07:44:10Z")

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Once Trump’s people found out that there would be no real time fact checking, his strategy became clear-lie fast, lie often, and Gish-gallop to victory while Biden tries to actually debate.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/735 "2024-06-28T13:35:48Z")

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Welp.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/736 "2024-06-28T13:50:45Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> WRONG! I was.

Don’t worry about it. Happened to me once too.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/737 "2024-06-28T13:54:44Z")

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Cross-posting from the Biden run-up thread:

> [@President Joe Biden and the runup to the 2024 election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-joe-biden-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/954384/1545):
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> Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign strategist [Stuart Stevens could be whistling past the graveyard](https://x.com/stuartpstevens/status/1806528635391631485), sure. But his takes are still a useful reframing of recent events. "Don’t day trade politics. It’s a sucker’s game. A guy from Queens out on bail bragged about overturning Roe v. Wade, said in public he didn’t have sex with a porn star, defended tax cuts for billionaires, defended Jan. 6th. and called America the worst country in the world. That guy isn’t going to win this race." … and this old saw: …

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/738 "2024-06-28T22:35:31Z")

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Not to interrupt Smapti’s victory lap, but: we really don’t know what Trump would have done if Biden had been, you know, remotely effective. Or even just awake.

Trump likes to ‘change the narrative’ as the saying goes. He wouldn’t have passively stood there if Biden was cleaning his clock–he would have _done something_.

What, we don’t know. But nothing can be ruled out.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/739 "2024-06-29T01:08:36Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@Aeschines](#):
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> > WRONG! I was.
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> Don’t worry about it. Happened to me once too.

I throught I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/740 "2024-06-29T02:19:58Z")

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That’s a pretty funny and delicious paradox! 🤪

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