# Trump will resign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 18, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922 "2017-05-18T14:38:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/21 "2017-05-18T17:10:23Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Its a little over 100 days in to his term and there is already an independent counsel investigating his campaign. Does that sound like business as usual to you?

Have you been following _at all_ over the past 20 months? What about Trump’s candidacy has been “business as usual”?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/22 "2017-05-18T17:17:35Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Heh. Nixon lasted, what, just over five-and-a-half years in office – getting re-elected along the way – before resigning in disgrace?

Bear in mind that the scandal which brought Nixon down occurred in 1972 (i.e., in the final year of Nixon’s first term). While the break-in itself, and the involvement of Nixon’s re-election committee, became publicly known before the 1972 election, it wasn’t until 1973 that it became clear that it was a wider conspiracy, and a special prosecutor was named.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/23 "2017-05-18T17:17:44Z")

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I saw this thread title and for a brief and shining second I thought…

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/24 "2017-05-18T17:24:43Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> I saw this thread title and for a brief and shining second I thought…

False hope…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/25 "2017-05-18T17:34:25Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Its a little over 100 days in to his term and there is already an independent counsel investigating his campaign. Does that sound like business as usual to you?

It never was business as usual, but if you think Donald Trump’s going to just publically admit defeat this easily, you haven’t been watching.

Trump knows lawyers and he knows how to stay out of jail. He’s already lining up the sacrificial lambs.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/26 "2017-05-18T17:45:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I would prefer that all of them spend the rest of their days in dank prison cells, thinking about their evil ways. Except for Melania. I want her to write a book about the sexual shortcomings of her husband. Then have her marry into the Kennedy family.

Actually I understand Roger Clinton is single now.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/27 "2017-05-18T17:49:16Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Have you been following _at all_ over the past 20 months? What about Trump’s candidacy has been “business as usual”?

Sure, but what’s your point? He couldn’t be impeached while he wasn’t president.

He did enough stupid shit that his demise absolutely should have happened during his candidacy.  
But it turned out that as long as he could continue to dumb things down for his base “Lock her up” “Build the wall” etc, and enough Republicans would remain loyal to their party over other considerations, it was enough.

But now, it’s not just a matter of appealing to his base. His words have consequences now, and we’re really seeing his (self-inflicted) problems pile up incredibly fast.

In fact, I’m going to put my money where my mouth is. I’m going to place a bet he won’t make it to the end of the year. Alas, the payout won’t be great: UK betting firms are currently putting the chance of impeach or resign within first term at 48%.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/28 "2017-05-18T17:53:36Z")

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Fine. At 12:01 A.M New York Time on January 1st 2018, if he is still President of the US, you post a thread saying **I am a dumbass?**. Or maybe **Ak84 is awesome**. 😃  
Deal?

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**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/29 "2017-05-18T17:59:38Z")

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I don’t think he will resign. He is a business man and likes money.

He is in a position to generate lots of wealth. And he will.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/30 "2017-05-18T18:00:56Z")

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yeah, bath is a typo.

His resignation is not my hope, my hope is that a hand reaches out of the clouds and picks him up by his necktie. It’s what I think is the most likely scenario, given his patterns. Trump blusters and lies right up until he realizes he can’t win, and then he just quits, very abruptly. There is almost nothing that is going well for him right now. Investigations are gathering steam, the public outcry is louder all the time, which means his congressional supporters are starting to waver, looking at their re-election chances.

I really do not think he is going to wait to be impeached or even investigated. He’s got a mountain of dirt in his closet and he knows it.

I’m aware we keep saying shit like this, but I’m not talking about what other people will or should do, I’m talking about how he has always behaved, his entire life.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/31 "2017-05-18T18:01:05Z")

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I don’t see Trump resigning. He’ll tell himself and his true believers that his enemies will never be able to beat him. He and his true believers will keep on denying what’s happening as Pence takes the oath of office.

Then the true believers will claim that this was their plan all along. They never liked Trump and this was all about getting Pence into the Oval Office. Trump was a liberal and they beat the Democrats by forcing him out of office. The conservatives win again!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/32 "2017-05-18T18:08:19Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> my hope is that a hand reaches out of the clouds and picks him up by his necktie.

Not that I would mourn his passing, but dying now would make him a martyr and prevent his character from being rightfully impugned. If he has to go, make it something like drowning in a golden shower while in full drag.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/33 "2017-05-18T18:22:42Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Does Mueller have that authority? I think he should, his sources of income seem relevant to the investigation.

I’m fairly sure that Mueller has authority to investigate wherever the Russia connections take him. Which if you look at all of the connections, pretty much opens it up to a LOT.

So yes, I think Trump’s returns are absolutely fair game, and actually pretty important. As well as all of the details of Trump’s business dealings.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/34 "2017-05-18T18:27:32Z")

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Where is the proof that he or his campaign people engaged in any criminal activity with regards to Russia? If there was no criminal activity then there was no obstruction by firing Comey.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/35 "2017-05-18T18:37:17Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Where is the proof that he or his campaign people engaged in any criminal activity with regards to Russia? If there was no criminal activity then there was no obstruction by firing Comey.

Not necessarily so. If there is a investigation into illegal activity and that investigation is obstructed, then I believe that makes it obstruction of justice even if later it is shown no criminal activity actually occurred.

I accept any feedback on this by any of our board’s Legal Eagles like… (name withheld)

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/36 "2017-05-18T18:39:16Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> I don’t think he will resign. He is a business man and likes money.
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> He is in a position to generate lots of wealth. And he will.

This.

> [@PastTense](#):
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> Where is the proof that he or his campaign people engaged in any criminal activity with regards to Russia? If there was no criminal activity then there was no obstruction by firing Comey.

And This Also.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/37 "2017-05-18T18:40:24Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Where is the proof that he or his campaign people engaged in any criminal activity with regards to Russia? If there was no criminal activity then there was no obstruction by firing Comey.

Well, that’s what the investigation is going to be about, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/38 "2017-05-18T18:46:03Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Where is the proof that he or his campaign people engaged in any criminal activity with regards to Russia? If there was no criminal activity then there was no obstruction by firing Comey.

I would imagine that the point of hiring Mr. Mueller is to answer that very question.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/39 "2017-05-18T18:56:57Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I would imagine that the point of hiring Mr. Mueller is to answer that very question.

The point of hiring Mr. Mueller is to kick the ball forward so such a question is not answered for months if not years and everyone can go back to what is important, i.e living in terror at the next Trump tweet.

Commissions, Investigators are rarely employed primarily with the intention of discovering the truth.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/40 "2017-05-18T18:57:53Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> He’ll be holding rallies the rest of his miserable life. “I tried to go to Washington and fight for the little guy, fix health care, secure that borders and make America great again, but one thing I wasn’t prepared for is what a sick guy Obama was. He put people in place to make sure that didn’t happen.”

This - he has already set up all of his failure excuses.

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