# Trump will resign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 18, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922 "2017-05-18T14:38:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/101 "2017-05-20T15:37:59Z")

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> For enough of this to stick to Pence - who has been part of Trump’s inner circle since the election, and was in charge of the transition - so that Pence has to resign too when Trump goes.
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> Then Paul Ryan becomes President

Might go more like Agnew; Pence could resign before Trump resigns/is removed, and a new VP is appointed.

Not knowing all the players very well, I’m curious as to who everyone thinks would get the VP position in that case.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/102 "2017-05-20T15:56:24Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> Not knowing all the players very well, I’m curious as to who everyone thinks would get the VP position in that case.

Jared Kushner?

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/103 "2017-05-20T16:01:23Z")

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> Jared Kushner?

I doubt he’d get approved by the House and Senate. 🙂

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/104 "2017-05-20T16:13:33Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> You know what I’d really like to see? And I think it’s quite possible.
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> For enough of this to stick to Pence - who has been part of Trump’s inner circle since the election, and was in charge of the transition - so that Pence has to resign too when Trump goes.
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> Then Paul Ryan becomes President, and it turns out he’s horrible too, trying to take health care away from tens of millions of Americans, giving big tax cuts to the wealthy, not being anything like the serious budget wonk the media portrayed him as, but rather being completely unmasked as the zombie-eyed granny starver (aka ZEGS) that those of us on the left already know he is. The result being that how horrible the GOP is becomes totally unavoidable, and not something that they can pretend was just about Trump.

For what it’s worth, I’m hoping for this with you.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/105 "2017-05-20T16:23:31Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It never was business as usual, but if you think Donald Trump’s going to just publically admit defeat this easily, you haven’t been watching.
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> Trump knows lawyers and he knows how to stay out of jail. He’s already lining up the sacrificial lambs.

The only way Trump quits, is if he can convince himself he can spin doing so as a victory.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/106 "2017-05-20T16:27:45Z")

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He’s too good for you. Yeah, that’s it, too good for you. You don’t deserve a president as great as he was.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/107 "2017-05-20T16:45:36Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I don’t see Trump resigning either. Resigning = quitting, which in Trump’s mind is the worst possible weakness he could show. Admittedly it would be amusing if Trump announced he was resigning to spend more time with his family only to have Melania immediately file for divorce.

Melanie is a lot of things but stupid isn’t one of them. Also forget all these attempts to portray her as the pretty princess locked in the tower by the evil orange ogre.

I doubt she loves him, but he provides her with a great life and lots of money.

Until the date on the prenup is up, she’s going to be married to him. That said, once it’s up…

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/108 "2017-05-20T17:16:42Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> I doubt she loves him, but he provides her with a great life and lots of money.

This is not a great life, she’s lost all the freedom she previously had as the wife of a billionaire. Being first lady is a hard job that she never had any desire to take. She is locked up in a tower with no real choice.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/109 "2017-05-20T17:19:11Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Sure. As long as you are prepared to do the same (obviously with my name switched for yours).  
> Deal!

We have an agreement!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/110 "2017-05-20T17:41:19Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> He’s too good for you. Yeah, that’s it, too good for you. You don’t deserve a president as great as he was.

Do you know who _else_ said his people weren’t good enough to deserve him?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/111 "2017-05-20T17:54:38Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> The only way Trump quits, is if he can convince himself he can spin doing so as a victory.

Bannon already had some practice spinning political defeat into victory.

> **[The Undefeated (2011 film)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undefeated_(2011_film))**
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> The Undefeated is an American political documentary on Sarah Palin, who was Governor of Alaska and later the Republican Party nominee for vice president in the 2008 United States presidential election. The documentary is written and directed by Stephen K. Bannon. The Undefeated was released on July 15, 2011.
> The film is constructed in three acts. The film opens with a montage. The first act concerns itself with Palin's term as mayor of Wasilla. The second act is about Palin's half term as govern...

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/112 "2017-05-20T17:55:41Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Do you know who _else_ said his people weren’t good enough to deserve him?

Jesus, but I don’t think it’s an apt comparison.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/113 "2017-05-20T18:26:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Jesus, but I don’t think it’s an apt comparison.

Don’t be deliberately obtuse, clearly he’s talking about Ted Cruz. As a prediction, it gives us all a cheerful prospect to look forward to.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/114 "2017-05-20T19:58:46Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Do you know who _else_ said his people weren’t good enough to deserve him?

General Bison?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/115 "2017-05-20T20:02:23Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Do you know who _else_ said his people weren’t good enough to deserve him?

“It is not impossible to rule Italians, but it would be useless.”

- Benito Mussolini.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/116 "2017-05-20T20:05:54Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> She is locked up in a tower with no real choice.

She has options, including very lucrative ones in the celebrity media market, but does not choose to exercise them. No, she did not choose to be First Lady, but she can choose \*not \*to be. So my sympathies are limited.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/117 "2017-05-22T13:51:35Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> For what it’s worth, I’m hoping for this with you.

Same here!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/118 "2017-05-22T14:52:03Z")

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As I said in another thread, if somehow Trump can cobble together The Ultimate Deal (his words, and believe me, I hate quoting them) and get some kind of fairly solid _\<something\>_ going between the Israelis and the Palestinians, something that HE can label “Peace” (and get a critical mass of media to agree with that label), THEN I can see him resigning.

He will have achieved **apotheosis** \*, and then-- and only then-- can he leave office a **winner** [this is the ONE condition for him to resign], trailing clouds of glory, devil take the hindmost, “who’s a [del]90[/del] 290-lb weakling with tiny hands” _now_, etc., etc.

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> **[a·poth·e·o·sis](http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/sites/default/files/images/artwork/8._cht_190345_2800.jpg)**  
> əˌpäTHēˈōsəs/  
> noun  
> noun: apotheosis; plural noun: apotheoses
> 
> 1. the highest point in the development of something; culmination or climax.  
> “his appearance as Hamlet was the apotheosis of his career”
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> 2. the elevation of someone to divine status; deification.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/119 "2017-05-22T15:33:51Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> She has options, including very lucrative ones in the celebrity media market, but does not choose to exercise them. No, she did not choose to be First Lady, but she can choose \*not \*to be. So my sympathies are limited.

She’d be perfect for _Dancing with the Stars_. Too bad Marla has already been on the show, else they could have all three Trimp-wives on at the same time! And he could be one of the guest judges.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/120 "2017-05-22T16:34:08Z")

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Heidi Klum has been hosting “Project Runway” for long enough already, too.

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