# Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 29, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834 "2024-01-29T20:25:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/501 "2024-03-19T16:28:27Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’m not the only one who’s imagined a sort of remote-control Trump, clumping around on stage like Frankenstein’s monster after he’s dead, right? Propped up for photos at conventions? Dipped in gold or in a coffin like Lenin?

Neal Stephenson wrote a book along these lines back in 1994:

> **[Interface (novel)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_(novel))**
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> Interface is a 1994 novel by Neal Stephenson and J. Frederick George (a pseudonym of George Jewsbury) and originally published under the joint pseudonym Stephen Bury. Reprints of the novel have credited the work to Stephenson and George. It is a thriller, set in the then-future year of 1996 when a shadowy coalition bent on controlling the world economy attempts to manipulate a candidate for president of the United States through the use of a computer biochip brain implant. It was described by Il...

Spoiler for the ending:

The plan fails because of a violent wingnut and the US ends up with a black female President.

To bring it back to the topic, I can’t see Trump being the type of guy who would let people do medical experiments on him after a stroke or after death. Hell, he won’t even let honest doctors look at him now!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/502 "2024-03-19T17:02:40Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Look at the disorder in the House, however, and you may wonder why he can’t bring order–or at least obeisance–to that shitshow

Because they can’t count on knowing what HE wants. He can’t be arsed to pay attention to what they’re doing so they have to guess what he wants and risk that once they settle on a course of action, he’ll just blow it up. Plus of course THEY themselves don’t know what other than pwning the Libs so why should he even try to steer them.

As mentioned, the “Establishment Republicans” who are in a position to “get a real job” elsewhere and not have to deal with the shitshow and its aftermath are leaving while they can. They evidently are not prepared for what needs done.

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**Author:** ![Gordon\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Gordon\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_G)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/503 "2024-03-19T17:35:34Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> As mentioned, the “Establishment Republicans” who are in a position to “get a real job” elsewhere and not have to deal with the shitshow and its aftermath are leaving while they can. They evidently are not prepared for what needs done.

And don’t forget the revelation in Romney’s recent book. Many prominent Republicans are secretly anti-Trump but unwilling to go public out of fear their family will suffer violence, as did Paul Pelosi.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/504 "2024-03-19T18:05:58Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’m not the only one who’s imagined a sort of remote-control Trump, clumping around on stage like Frankenstein’s monster after he’s dead, right? Propped up for photos at conventions? Dipped in gold or in a coffin like Lenin?

[from _Sleeper_ (Woody Allen film…the “Leader’s Nose” scene)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxHSLCIa60)

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/505 "2024-03-19T22:40:00Z")

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There’s an old-fashioned concept of adverse vitality known as “sheer cussedness” as in “the old coot only lived as long as he did out of sheer cussedness to spite us.” Gross as it is to contemplate, Dump seems to gain vitality from being disgusting, like a Baron Harkonnen.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/506 "2024-03-20T00:32:00Z")

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Indeed he does!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/507 "2024-03-20T00:35:49Z")

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> [@Gordon\_G](#):
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> And don’t forget the revelation in Romney’s recent book. Many prominent Republicans are secretly anti-Trump but unwilling to go public out of fear their family will suffer violence, as did Paul Pelosi.

And or be primaried out. Government by threats.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/508 "2024-03-20T02:03:09Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> from _Sleeper_ (Woody Allen film…the “Leader’s Nose” scene)

Weekend at Donnie’s.

[![](https://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/069f/SS.WeekendAtBernies.jpg) ](https://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/069f/SS.WeekendAtBernies.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/509 "2024-03-20T03:51:28Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Weekend at Donnie’s.

And he’s starting to STINK!

(Well, maybe not _starting_…)

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/510 "2024-03-20T03:57:05Z")

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Guys, I’m talking implodo, and kos has got some implodo on the dodo!

Check this out:

> **[Trump's going broke and he's taking the whole GOP down with him](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/19/2230355/-Trump-s-going-broke-and-he-s-taking-the-whole-Republican-Party-down-with-him?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_5&pm_medium=web)**
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> Donald Trump is in a bit of a financial bind: He can't post the $464 million bond necessary to buy him time while he appeals the ruling in the New York civil fraud case brought by state Attorney General Letitia James. Trump has reportedly floated...

Some key quotos:

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> As his legal troubles continue to mount, the small-dollar donors who have funded much of Trump’s legal bills are starting to turn off the spigot. [CNBC’s Brian Schwartz reports](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/trump-campaign-cash-crunch-small-dollar-donor-fatigue-major-donor-nerves.html) that in 2023, Trump’s reelection campaign raised 62.5% less money from small-dollar donors than in 2019, the year preceding[the last presidential election](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/26/trump-lags-in-small-dollar-donations-as-gop-fundraising-company-hits-snags.html). When the dust settled in 2020, Trump had raised nearly half of his total cash haul—$378 million—from small-dollar donations.

That’s his own _base_ that ain’t paying up!

But Trump is about to rob the rich and powerful RNC, right? But, umm:

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> Since securing the required delegates, Trump has[taken over the Republican National Committee](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/12/rnc-trump-firings-takeover/) with high hopes of a cash infusion he can use to pay his legal bills.[Except the RNC is broke](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221162/-Poor-Republicans-have-a-major-cash-problem)—entering the year with just $8 million cash on hand and nearly $2 million in debt. Those are some downright dismal numbers. And despite Trump’s daughter-in-law Lara Trump[promising to pay](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/5/2227639/-Trump-s-big-purge-of-the-GOP-is-underway) her father-in-law’s legal bills, the RNC faces the same uphill fundraising battle that Trump does.

Holy shit! $8 mil is just _pocket change_ to the $500 mil that Trump owes in NY for his fraud–and that’s before they even get to the goddamn _campaigning_ part.

It’s like the Titanic–but sinking in the shipyard before launch! LMFAO at these fools!!!

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/511 "2024-03-20T04:19:06Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Guys, I’m talking implodo, and kos has got some implodo on the dodo!

It’s _Daily Kos_, brother. It’s _raison d’etre_ is to spoon feed liberals content that justifies their preexisting perceptions about the state of politics. You need to relax if you’re going to make it to November.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/512 "2024-03-20T04:26:48Z")

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So it wasn’t correct?  
Please enlighten us.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/513 "2024-03-20T04:47:49Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> It’s _Daily Kos_, brother. It’s _raison d’etre_ is to spoon feed liberals content that justifies their preexisting perceptions about the state of politics.

Yep, I love it.

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> You need to relax if you’re going to make it to November.

Cuz “relaxation” is how we win elections. 🙄

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/514 "2024-03-20T05:23:52Z")

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You know, in a way, trump turning the RNC into another grift for him is a Good Thing. All those small purple races that the RNC and the DNC usually spend their budget on- it will be just the DNC now.

Taking back the House is a Good Thing.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/515 "2024-03-20T06:21:33Z")

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Yup. In this case, Trump’s “competence” is most appreciated!

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/516 "2024-03-20T17:32:04Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Cuz “relaxation” is how we win elections. 🙄

Convincing yourself that it’s in the bag because Trump is imploding isn’t going to win the election.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/517 "2024-03-20T18:38:30Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Convincing yourself that it’s in the bag because Trump is imploding isn’t going to win the election.

It’s clear that you don’t understand kos. None of the staffers treat the election as a done deal, and, if anything, most of the diaries are by panic-stricken posters.

I won’t repeat myself with respect to what I’ve said above, which you haven’t read.

From the way you denigrate kos, I’m curious whether you actually support the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/518 "2024-03-20T21:16:15Z")

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This honestly made me laugh out loud. I guess No True Democrat can have a low opinion of _Daily Kos_. I’ll let my posting history here speak for itself on my political leanings.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/519 "2024-03-21T03:00:32Z")

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Great, but how about actually participating in the thread instead of doing drive-bys in which you’re oh-so-cool?!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/520 "2024-03-21T04:01:31Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Great, but how about actually participating in the thread instead of doing drive-bys in which you’re oh-so-cool?! -

Let’s avoid making this personal.

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