# Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 29, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834 "2024-01-29T20:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/601 "2024-03-28T19:24:57Z")
Yep, idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/602 "2024-03-28T19:25:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > and 2024 written in sharpie. No one will notice!!! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/603 "2024-03-28T21:19:26Z")
Absent an actual 2024 GOP platform, Democrats need to keep reminding voters that the fascist wet dream manifesto, Project 2025 is the _de facto_ Republican platform. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/604 "2024-03-28T21:48:41Z")
It’s retro! Vintage is very big right now! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/605 "2024-03-28T22:32:16Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > huffing Trump’s flatus I just wrecked myself laughing at this nugget! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/606 "2024-03-28T23:26:49Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Even as I try to be objective and avoid wishful thinking You might want to try harder… ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/607 "2024-03-28T23:31:25Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Is this the district that Alabama restructured kicking and screaming after SCOTUS ruled they had to? That might be a better explanation for the big swing than voter sentiment changing. I believe that that [forced redistricting was for the U.S. House](https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1200906844/supreme-court-alabama-voting-case). Marilyn Lands won a seat in the Alabama Legislature. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/608 "2024-03-29T06:19:44Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I believe that that [forced redistricting was for the U.S. House](https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1200906844/supreme-court-alabama-voting-case). Marilyn Lands won a seat in the Alabama Legislature. While it’s important to be vigilant of course, like many other people I was fairly confident in 2016 that Hillary Clinton would win and look where that got us, I do have to admit between the numbers we saw in the Republican primary results and this most recent result in Alabama there is reason to have hope if we need something to look to. Still overconfidence would be a mistake so I’m so glad to see how aggressively the Biden campaign has came out at least at the start. It’s still a long time between now and november. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/609 "2024-03-29T12:06:17Z")
Heheh. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/610 "2024-03-29T12:07:19Z")
“Try harder you must, or the Trump Side will forever rule your destiny…” –Yoda ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/611 "2024-03-29T12:49:27Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > Is this the district that Alabama restructured kicking and screaming after SCOTUS ruled they had to? That might be a better explanation for the big swing than voter sentiment changing. > > I believe that that [forced redistricting was for the U.S. House](https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1200906844/supreme-court-alabama-voting-case). Marilyn Lands won a seat in the Alabama Legislature. D’oh! Thanks for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/612 "2024-03-29T19:23:54Z")
Nice summary of the state of the NSGOP implosion: > **[Joe Biden Is The Front Runner - We Are Winning!](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/29/2232259/-Joe-Biden-Is-The-Front-Runner-We-Are-Winning?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)** > > President Joe Biden’s successful State of the Union Address on March 7 will forever be seen as a turning point for the campaign. Even though Biden led in many polls before the speech, the mainstream press and some Democrats claimed that Trump was... Key part: > [@](#): > > There is donor fatigue among Trump supporters. Both small donations and large donations are down significantly since 2020. This is mostly likely because a significant portion of Trump’s campaign cash will go to lawyer fees. In addition, any money contributed to the RNC will go to pay Trump’s lawyers. This will starve down ballot GOP campaigns. > > Due to this cash shortage, Trump only campaigned one day in the last two weeks of March and currently has no events on his calendar. Trump canceled a rally in Arizona due to lack of funds. The orange hued mogul is now spending most of his time golfing at his estate in Florida.\*\* > > It is rumored that Trump is being held off the campaign trail by his staff due to his declining mental health. He is exhibiting all of the signs of the onset of dementia. The GOP presumptive nominee rambles on incoherently and says crazy and toxic things that generate several days of bad headlines. Trump is a detriment to his own campaign. Meanwhile, Biden is ferociously campaigning. Also, the tide has turned in the polls: > [@](#): > > According to Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg, Biden now holds a narrow lead in 9 recent national polls. Moreover, Biden now has the lead in the Economist polling average. Sayōnara, nazi punks!!! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/613 "2024-03-29T19:27:53Z")
One does have to allow for the fact that’s coming from Daily Kos, but it is nevertheless encouraging. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/614 "2024-03-29T19:56:03Z")
Yes, and well, the writer is citing actual facts and stats. When I cite kos articles on the Dope, those are the kind I generally go for. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/615 "2024-03-29T20:28:21Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > citing No, it’s got a lot of “people are saying” lines but few actual cites. For example: > According to Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg, Biden now holds a narrow lead in 9 recent national polls. Ok. When did he say that? Where? > Another consistent data point in the GOP exit polls was that anywhere from 25% to 35% of Republicans won’t vote for Trump in November. Even Fox “News” said that Trump can’t win with those numbers. Those sound like good facts, but which exit polls and when did Fox News say that? Which is, you know, fine. This is (a) on an incredibly biased website and (b) is an unvetted blog post on an incredibly biased website. And I’m not even impugning the blog post itself, because it’s just a blog post. Just somebody ranting on the internet. But it is not news and it’s not analysis. Kos is what it is but, as EddyTeddyEtc says, you have to normalize for anything posted there by giving it extra scrutiny. It’s too easy to fall into the “Ah yes, Kos speaks the truth yet again!” because they’re saying what you want to hear. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/616 "2024-03-29T20:42:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > they’re saying what you want to hear. Isn’t that pretty much what this whole thread is about? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/617 "2024-03-29T20:58:43Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Which is, you know, fine. This is (a) on an incredibly biased website and (b) is an unvetted blog post on an incredibly biased website. And I’m not even impugning the blog post itself, because it’s just a blog post. Just somebody ranting on the internet. But it is not news and it’s not analysis. I’m pushing back on the idea that because it’s on kos, it’s automatically just opinion and BS. Some of your points are fair, but he does cite some actual numbers to back up his claims in the article. It’s not _mere_ opinion. And yes, it’s a diary. The staff writers more or less meticulously cite everything. Kos is _explicitly_ biased, as it is explicitly a site to support the Democratic party. But I think the staff writers tend to do good, sober work in assessing the current situation. > [@](#): > > Kos is what it is but, as EddyTeddyEtc says, you have to normalize for anything posted there by giving it extra scrutiny. It’s too easy to fall into the “Ah yes, Kos speaks the truth yet again!” because they’re saying what you want to hear. I call BS on this for the aforementioned reason: the staff writers are not idiot cheerleaders; they are pretty darn good journalists who back up what they say, and they are not universally positive. When the stats are against us, they say that. But even then they cheerlead and recommend how to overcome the situation. I’m a fan of the site. I think it’s solid. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/618 "2024-03-29T21:04:06Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I’m pushing back on the idea that because it’s on kos, it’s automatically just opinion and BS. Who is saying that here? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/619 "2024-03-29T21:09:45Z")
Not literally. But you and **flurb** have spoken of the site in a highly negative manner. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/620 "2024-03-29T21:12:23Z")
Okay. What highly negative things have I said about Kos? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834.md?page=32)