# Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 29, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834 "2024-01-29T20:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/621 "2024-03-29T21:13:33Z")
I have no need to be victorious in this argument. If you are positive about the site, then I am wrong, and that’s great! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/622 "2024-03-29T21:16:29Z")
Cool! ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/623 "2024-03-29T21:20:49Z")
Here’s another cite, CNN, offering some details to support the idea that Donald’s campaigning is feeble. > [@](#): > > Trump has been to the state [of Pennsylvania] once this year, for a National Rifle Association convention in Harrisburg at the beginning of February. Before that, he was last there for a rally in Erie in the fall. And while advisers insist he will be prioritizing the state ahead of November, there is nothing currently on the schedule… > > Trump’s last visit to the state [of Wisconsin]: August 5, 2022… > > Trump’s last trip to Arizona remains October 9, 2022… > **[Biden and Trump’s post-Super Tuesday campaign schedules are a study in...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/20/politics/biden-trump-campaign-contrasts)** > > Joe Biden has been to every top battleground state but one since the Super Tuesday primaries. He has also been on unannounced calls pushing negotiators toward a Gaza ceasefire, among other official White House duties. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/624 "2024-03-29T21:33:28Z")
When Trump lost in 2020, I remember saying to someone, “Whatever else you have to say about the guy, no one can deny that he campaigned his ass off.” This year, not so much. Sure, he has to be in court every now and then (_cue world’s smallest violin_), but his failure to visit battleground states or, really, much of anywhere tell me that he’s hoping to win on the basis of social media rants and Fox News cheerleading. He’s running on fumes, mentally and physically. But (back to the subject of the thread) he’ll still be the GOP nominee. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/625 "2024-03-29T21:57:54Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > He’s running on fumes, mentally and physically. > > But (back to the subject of the thread) he’ll still be the GOP nominee. But maybe not–for the reason you just cited. Google tells me the convention starts July 15. It’s going to be a loooong 3.5 months for Trump. While I can speculate but not guarantee that Trump will not be the nominee, I _can_ guarantee that one or more things _very_ bad for Trump’s election prospects will happen to him or be caused by him (or both) before that date. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/626 "2024-03-29T22:07:42Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I _can_ guarantee that one or more things _very_ bad for Trump’s election prospects will happen to him or be caused by him (or both) before that date. Maybe so, but I believe he’ll be the nominee as long as he’s alive, able to recognize his own name, and not confined to federal custody. And I’m not even 100% on that last part. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/627 "2024-03-29T22:11:27Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Maybe so, but I believe he’ll be the nominee as long as he’s alive, able to recognize his own name, and not confined to federal custody. And I’m not even 100% on that last part. I think the chance that he is too incapacitated to accept the nomination physically is not insignificant, but I also concede that the GOP is so broken that, so long as he is conscious, they may choose to pump him full of uppers and have him stumble through his acceptance speech. If that is the case, I will concede here that I was wrong but still be happy with that reality. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/628 "2024-03-29T22:19:54Z")
Seriously, in many ways, it’s time to cue the music! 🎶 Okay (okay, okay, okay) Just a little pinprick There’ll be no more, ah But you may feel a little sick Can you stand up? I do believe it’s working, good That’ll keep you going through the show Come on it’s time to go 🎶 Pink Floyd’s _Comfortably Numb_, because, of course. Works on a couple of levels. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/629 "2024-03-29T22:22:20Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Works on a couple of levels. 🙂 Yes, and, when it comes to _Animals_, we are talking pigs instead of elephants. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/630 "2024-03-29T22:28:23Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Yes, and, when it comes to _Animals_, we are talking pigs instead of elephants. Pigs are clean and intelligent. I’d go for the hagfish as similar to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/631 "2024-03-29T22:42:47Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Okay (okay, okay, okay) > Just a little pinprick > There’ll be no more, ah > But you may feel a little sick > Can you stand up? > I do believe it’s working, good > That’ll keep you going through the show > Come on it’s time to go _IIIIIIIIIIIIII have become… uncomfortably Trump._ ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/632 "2024-03-29T22:49:20Z")
But seriously, it does apply. You have a “leader” (scare quotes should be multiplied several times) who is increasingly disconnected with reality and responding in an ever more exaggerated manner in a feedback loop from hell. Adding (if it isn’t going on already) a cocktail of drugs to maintain appearance and keep him on stage is not only plausible, but bloody likely as he becomes more unhinged, whether due to dementia, overwhelming fear of his upcoming consequences, or just plain anger and nihilism. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/633 "2024-03-29T23:10:51Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Pigs are clean and intelligent. I’d go for the hagfish as similar to Trump. LOL! 2x ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/634 "2024-03-29T23:22:02Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Pigs are clean and intelligent. I’d go for the hagfish as similar to Trump. While googling what a “hagfish” is I found the below story from CNN. I laughed. Please note the story is from 2017, shortly after Trump took office. [https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/politics/donald-trump-koi-pond-japan/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/politics/donald-trump-koi-pond-japan/index.html) Poor fish. Pour fish? I love wordplay but I’m terrible at it. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/635 "2024-04-03T13:14:27Z")
One fed the fishes. The other now feeds the worms (well, with cremation and all that, maybe not…). ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/636 "2024-04-03T13:14:37Z")
Oh dear: > **[Exclusive: Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/03/trump-media-es-family-trust-2022-loans)** > > Trump’s social media company went public relying partly on loans from trust managed by person of interest to prosecutors ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/637 "2024-04-03T16:47:58Z")
Russians bailing Trump out again. What a shocker. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/638 "2024-04-03T17:26:22Z")
Yes, I’m flabbergasted. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/639 "2024-04-03T17:26:58Z")
In my continuing self-appointed role of being the burr under the saddle to the narrative of this thread, I’ll note that [Trump and affiliated campaign accounts raised $65.6 million in March](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/03/trump-rnc-raised-65-6-million-march-00150300) and ended the month with $93.1 million in cash on hand. The haul outpaces what he raised in March 2020 when he was an incumbent President seeking reelection. He’s still significantly behind Biden in cash on hand, but his fundraising certainly doesn’t support the view of a campaign in collapse or that donors are fleeing a sinking ship. And these amounts don’t include the tidal wave of dark money that will be spent on his behalf. Even with his legal costs, he’s going to have plenty of money to run a competitive campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/640 "2024-04-03T17:47:04Z")
More to the point, a guy like Trump doesn’t even really need money or advertising for a campaign. By this point, everyone knows who he is, knows what he stands for, and the media covers him every day. He doesn’t need TV ads; nobody is unreached or undecided in America. A normal candidate would need a get-out-the-vote operation but Trumpers are fanatical. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834.md?page=33)