# Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 29, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834 "2024-01-29T20:25:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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Also agreed. My impression is Melania has tried hard to keep Barron out of the Trump circus. No doubt she’s royally pissed at this attempt to rope him in.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> No doubt she’s royally pissed at this attempt to rope him in.

I don’t care. Do U?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/883 "2024-05-12T23:39:04Z")

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I really don’t.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/884 "2024-05-15T22:19:46Z")

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Last night, Nikki Haley broke off 20% of the Republican primary voters in Maryland and 18% in Nebraska. She only managed 9% in West Virginia, though.

> **[2024 Maryland Republican presidential primary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Maryland_Republican_presidential_primary)**
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> Trump
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> The 2024 Maryland Republican presidential primary was held on May 14, 2024, as part of the Republican Party primaries for the 2024 presidential election. 37 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention will be allocated on a winner-take-all basis. The contest will be held alongside primaries in Nebraska and West Virginia.

> **[2024 Nebraska Republican presidential primary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Nebraska_Republican_presidential_primary)**
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> Trump
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> The 2024 Nebraska Republican presidential primary was held on May 14, 2024, as part of the Republican Party primaries for the 2024 presidential election. 36 delegates to the 2024 Republican National Convention were allocated on a winner-take-all basis. The contest was held alongside primaries in Maryland and West Virginia.
> This Nebraska elections-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/885 "2024-05-16T03:15:38Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> …She only managed 9% in West Virginia, though…

Hardly surprising given the state and the candidate. In fact, I find it a bit shocking that many R voters in WV would vote for a non-white female.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/886 "2024-05-28T00:05:45Z")

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I hope you’ve had a good Memorial Day. May our American heroes rest in peace.

While we look forward to a guilty verdict for His Orangeness (probably) later this week, things aren’t going well for him in other areas:

Trump was booed to the max at the Libertarian convention: [link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gkY1k-Fz0).

Trump continues to lose his shit, salutes the song “Amazing Grace”:

> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1794857683629244631>

The media, traditional and otherwise, are starting to look more deeply into Trump’s cognitive decline. The “Shrinking Trump” podcast on the Really American YouTube channel gets into the details: [link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyBJGWOejrs).

Further, Trump, like an idiot, agreed to debate Biden, including one debate that will occur before the conventions. Personally, I think Trump will chicken out, just as he chickened out (wisely) of testifying at his own trial. Whether he participates or not, it’s a lose for Trump: if he participates, he will be crushed and reveal to everyone his mental incapacity. If not, he will be endlessly mocked for chickening out.

Things aren’t looking good for this fascist smegma lump, and no, I still don’t think he’s going to make it to the convention and the nomination!

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/887 "2024-05-28T00:33:09Z")

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I have to give you points for consistency! Since the primaries are all but over and 95% of the delegates are bound to Trump, what do you think the mechanism will be for Trump being denied the nomination? Do you think he’s going to bow out, or that the convention will change the rules to unbind his delegates? Genuinely curious.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/888 "2024-05-28T00:33:40Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Personally, I think Trump will chicken out

Right. I don’t believe for a moment that it will happen.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/889 "2024-05-28T00:48:25Z")

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Death is the only way he isn’t on the ballot and I give like 10% of the GOP trying to elect his corpse instead of having someone else on the ballot.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/890 "2024-05-28T00:58:36Z")

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[quote=“Aeschines, post:886, topic:996834”]

> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> > [@Aeschines](#):
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> > Personally, I think Trump will chicken out
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> Right. I don’t believe for a moment that it will happen.

In context, the claim was that Trump will chicken out of the debates.

I do not predict it, but I think it possible.

If he does, here’s how I see it working, at least for the June debate. Trump will say that Kennedy met the official criteria for debating, and CNN, the Biden-controlled enemy of the people, is refusing to invite Kennedy. Trump will say that he’d love to debate many times but it has to be with Kennedy present.

But really, the June debate is so far before the election that any resultant bump will be long gone when early voting begins. Trump might as well debate Biden and lose.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/891 "2024-05-28T01:00:01Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> I have to give you points for consistency! Since the primaries are all but over and 95% of the delegates are bound to Trump, what do you think the mechanism will be for Trump being denied the nomination? Do you think he’s going to bow out, or that the convention will change the rules to unbind his delegates? Genuinely curious.

I think he is on the path to complete collapse by that point.

Another route is GOP panic. He gets his guilty verdict, starts crashing in the polls that were already weighted in his favor, and the rest of the motley and rotten crew starts to bail.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
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It might actually happen. He is looking really ragged.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/893 "2024-05-28T01:15:26Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> In context, the claim was that Trump will chicken out of the debates.
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> I do not predict it, but I think it possible.

Oh I would definitely prefer him to debate. He will be slaughtered.

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> Trump will say that he’d love to debate many times but it has to be with Kennedy present.

Plausible. Any lame excuse will work to get him out of the debates.  
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But really, the June debate is so far before the election that any resultant bump will be long gone when early voting begins. Trump might as well debate Biden and lose.  
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I see it more as an early cascade downward to oblivion. The guy is so barely viable at this point, any push and he’s over the falls…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/894 "2024-05-28T01:36:16Z")

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There is ZERO chance that Trump will not be the Republican nominee.

And you may quote me on that.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/895 "2024-05-28T01:38:04Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> There is ZERO chance that Trump will not be the Republican nominee.

Now, I know that the hardcore MAGAs might vote for him anyway- if he died- but I think that the GOP would nominate another. And altho- _sadly_- the chance of trump dying that soon is slim, it is higher than 0%.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/896 "2024-05-28T02:05:47Z")

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I get what you’re saying, but what’s the mechanism? There’s going to be a Republican nominating convention in July that will decide who the GOP Presidential candidate will be. Under current rules, the delegates pledged to him are required to vote for him on the first ballot.

Do you think he’ll withdraw (which would free up his delegates)? Do you think the convention will vote to change its rules to unbind his delegates? Do you believe that his delegates will vote for someone else? How do you see this going down?

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/897 "2024-05-28T02:12:10Z")

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Never mind – looking upthread I see I’m just rehashing conversations you and I have already had. RNC is in six weeks so we’ll see then!

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/898 "2024-05-28T02:24:30Z")

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I’m hoping for an undeniable meltdown on the TeeVee … maybe he pisses his pants and starts crying or something … and then utter chaos and revolutionary mayhem at the convention.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/899 "2024-05-28T04:17:38Z")

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He’s not far from that state.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/900 "2024-05-28T04:20:59Z")

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I’m still holding out hope that when the Guilty verdict comes down in New York, Trump flips out completely and starts threatening the judge, jury and prosecutors (and his own lawyers) with death.

And then he gets 30 days for direct criminal contempt, and is taken away crying like a baby, begging for forgiveness.

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