# Trump, you're making it hard to support you with these wiretap/vote fraud claims! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388 "2017-03-04T16:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/1 "2017-03-04T16:07:22Z")
I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/2 "2017-03-04T16:14:13Z")
Oh super, the slimy moral dwarf loves the Trump masculism… and identifies with the bigot hatred. if only Trump was the cross-gender dresser, the moral dwarf could have all his secret fantasies. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/3 "2017-03-04T16:17:42Z")
No, he’s making it hard to support him because he’s an immature, irrational, narcissistic groper who couldn’t spell “cat” if you spotted him the C and the A. And his campaign platform and term so far is completely detestable. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/4 "2017-03-04T16:19:57Z")
Sexual communism? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/5 "2017-03-04T16:22:08Z")
_This_ was the straw that made you complain about his ratings? ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/6 "2017-03-04T16:22:26Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! “SOTU Trump” is a facade, and you got conned. It’s cute that you’re just now starting to realize this. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/7 "2017-03-04T16:24:14Z")
Don’t be a cuck, birther Trump is what you wanted ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/8 "2017-03-04T16:24:42Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! I really can’t tell if this is a joke. Masculisim?? Sexual communism?? “Palestine” (in quotes so it’s not really Palestine) 😕 Is this parody or are you being serious? If it’s parody it’s stupid and if it’s real then, dude, it’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/9 "2017-03-04T16:27:00Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Sexual communism? Oh, it’s all the rage with the young folks today. it’s like Hair, without all the hair. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/10 "2017-03-04T16:29:45Z")
See, this is the under-appreciated aspect of Trump. He gives everyone a reason to hate him. As a figure for our collective scorn, he unites us. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/11 "2017-03-04T16:31:20Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Don’t be a cuck, birther Trump is what you wanted No! Anti-vaxxer Trump is best! ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/12 "2017-03-04T16:31:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > See, this is the under-appreciated aspect of Trump. He gives everyone a reason to hate him. As a figure for our collective scorn, he unites us. true, true 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/13 "2017-03-04T16:33:30Z")
I, for one, am happy Derek has made his first steps into adulthood. Dismiss this as snark, but it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/14 "2017-03-04T16:45:25Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Oh super, the slimy moral dwarf loves the Trump masculism… and identifies with the bigot hatred. > > if only Trump was the cross-gender dresser, the moral dwarf could have all his secret fantasies. Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/15 "2017-03-04T16:51:17Z")
I understand where the OP is coming from. It’s like Bernie Madoff. Bernie was great when he was growing investors’ money 15% a year. People loved getting his financial statements. Where he went wrong was being unable to pay people their money. If he had just kept being 15% Bernie, he wouldn’t be in jail. Same thing with Trump. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/16 "2017-03-04T16:54:56Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Oh super, the slimy moral dwarf loves the Trump **masculism** … and identifies with the bigot hatred. > > if only Trump was the cross-gender dresser, the moral dwarf could have all his secret fantasies. Amusingly, that’s another word for _masculinism_. Figures **Derek** would use the shorter word. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/17 "2017-03-04T16:55:13Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Sexual communism? “AKA transvestitism.” Think Khrushchev in panties, peekaboo bra, and garter belt. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/18 "2017-03-04T17:00:49Z")
No. I won’t do it, no, I…_aaaaarrrgh!_ I’ll get you for this, if it takes the rest of my life… ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/19 "2017-03-04T17:05:11Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? I don’t think my life will ever be the same. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/20 "2017-03-04T17:05:16Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Don’t be a cuck, birther Trump is what you wanted > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No! Anti-vaxxer Trump is best! I’ve got a Trump with a vinyl cape! Still mint-in-box! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388.md?page=2)