# Trump, you're making it hard to support you with these wiretap/vote fraud claims!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 4, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388 "2017-03-04T16:07:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/221 "2017-03-06T21:48:27Z")

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> sexual communism

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> Worst band name ever.

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> Sounds like a Spinal Tap song to me…

This is what you get if you start a sex farm…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/222 "2017-03-06T22:01:25Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> He’s blaming liberals because he can’t pick up women? Did they retard his growth hormones too? Damn those liberals and their ability to seed anti-pheromones into the atmosphere.

What’s wack is that I became a temporary Republican Because There Was This Girl, the root of most mens mistakes. Didn’t work.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh you’re so cute. _ruffles hair_

At least you won’t get any STDs from him. :eek:

> [@Itself](#):
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> Dude, shut the fuck up. I started to write a longer post making fun of you for supporting Trump because he’d stop those horrible nasty women from making fun of you for being short, but you’re genuinely pathetic. The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. He is not your agony aunt, ready to listen to the persecution and hardship you faced for being short. He is not the editor-in-chief of Tumblr, poised over a keyboard and ready to put the social justice warriors in their place. He is not your wingman, with whose exploits you can vicariously enjoy all the pussy-grabbing you’re currently denied. He is the fucking President and, like the rest of us, he simply does not give a shit about you.

AND he’d make fun of him for being a short loser.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Stephanie Miller, I think.

I supported her dad in '64. Will that give me a shot?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/223 "2017-03-06T22:03:02Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> What’s wack is that I became a temporary Republican Because There Was This Girl, the root of most mens mistakes. Didn’t work.
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> **At least you won’t get any STDs from him**. :eek:
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> AND he’d make fun of him for being a short loser.
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> I supported her dad in '64. Will that give me a shot?

I didn’t know ants had STDs  
Ignorance fought.

ETA: Damn, you caught it. The error, I mean.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/224 "2017-03-06T22:07:53Z")

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I was tempted to leave it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/225 "2017-03-06T22:09:11Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How do you think I got my name? It’s short for “Czar Of Orgasm”. 😃

Czar? I thought the communists killed the czar.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/226 "2017-03-06T23:53:33Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Czar? I thought the communists killed the czar.

No, it was video killed the czar.  
Well, the radio czar. The television czar is still around.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/227 "2017-03-07T01:05:35Z")

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And Der Kommissar’s in town, too.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/228 "2017-03-07T01:43:54Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> No, it was video killed the czar.  
> Well, the radio czar. The television czar is still around.

I thought that was Ezra C.V. Mildew Dezire Jr.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/229 "2017-03-07T02:04:01Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How do you think I got my name? It’s short for “Czar Of Orgasm”. 😃

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Here I thought it was ‘Czar of Chasm’, ruler of deep fissures.

Same thing?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/230 "2017-03-07T03:19:28Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> What’s wack is that I became a temporary Republican Because There Was This Girl, the root of most mens mistakes. Didn’t work…

I tried to do that, but found myself becoming more liberal after seeing the hypocrisy in Gorgeous Rightie’s worldview.

She then… I swear I’m not making this up… married a Baron.

(Liechtenstein? Luxembourg? One of those euro-micro-venues. We now call her The Baroness Von Trapp, of course)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/231 "2017-03-07T03:42:29Z")

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Christine was hotter. Really, she was hotter than anybody.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/232 "2017-03-07T16:04:41Z")

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I’m a short guy, about 5’5". Yeah, the dating pool is a little smaller for us short guys. Most women who prefer tall guys won’t mention that, because it’s rude to mention it, but plenty of women prefer to date men taller than them, and most of those women aren’t in my dating pool.

I have a friend, a lovely woman who’s about 6’ tall. A few times when we talked about dating she mentioned her preference for tall guys, and mock-apologized to me, and it was a little uncomfortable; we weren’t gonna date anyway, there was no real need for her to point that out. But it was small potatoes, not something to get worked up over.

And the thing is, plenty of people have their dating pool restricted by something they can’t control. I know **Derek** thinks weight is entirely in a person’s control, but that’s a superstitious view that ignores a tremendous amount of biological research. Some folks have a skin color, or a hair type, or a disability, or a mental illness, that restricts their dating pool. Sucks, but there it is.

None of those reasons are the fault of the people who aren’t attracted to you. Blaming people for not finding you attractive is insane.

But that’s not even what Derek is doing.

He’s not accepting, with wry good grace, the fact that he like many other people has his dating pool restricted by physical factors out of his control. He isn’t even blaming the women who aren’t attracted to him, as a lot of “nice guys” do.

No: he’s constructed an elaborate fantasy wherein he’ll be expected to date transwomen (expected by whom, and why he should care about their expectations, is not well-defined in this fantasy), and then because of these shadowy figures and their expectations, he’s getting mad at the transwomen whom he’s expected to date.

It’s profoundly silly, and repellent on every level.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/233 "2017-03-07T16:06:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And Der Kommissar’s in town, too.

Didn’t Commissar get banned?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/234 "2017-03-07T16:12:59Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And Der Kommissar’s in town, too.

Uh-Oh!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/235 "2017-03-07T16:16:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> How do you think I got my name? It’s short for “Czar Of Orgasm”. 😃

And all this time I thought it was a tribute to the late Casey Kasem.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/236 "2017-03-07T16:28:26Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> No: he’s constructed an elaborate fantasy wherein he’ll be expected to date transwomen (expected by whom, and why he should care about their expectations, is not well-defined in this fantasy), and then because of these shadowy figures and their expectations, he’s getting mad at the transwomen whom he’s expected to date.

I expect the transwomen would be pretty angry too.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/237 "2017-03-07T16:39:58Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I expect the transwomen would be pretty angry too.

Yeah, I’m unclear on what they actually do in this fantasy. I imagine **Derek** saying, “Goddammit, THEY are making me go on a date with you!” and the transwoman saying, “MWAHAHAHAHA, resistance is futile!”

I’m not sure whether he thinks that transwomen are especially attracted to short dudes, or whether he thinks they want to have hatesex with him, or what.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/238 "2017-03-07T16:56:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’m not sure whether he thinks that transwomen are especially attracted to short dudes, or whether he thinks they want to have hatesex with him, or what.

My bet is that he thinks transwomen are so pathetically desperate for male attention (on account of their being unable to “compete” with “real” women, you know :rolleyes: ) that they would be willing to “settle” for a short man. And what makes him so furious is the (imagined) implied expectation that **he** is likewise so pathetically desperate for female attention that he ought to be willing to “settle” for a “not-real” transwoman, in a cozy little romantic bubble of mutual contempt, resentment and despair.

The inside of **DerekMichaels00** ’s head sounds like a horrible place to be, for many reasons that have nothing to do with its smaller-than-average distance from the ground.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/239 "2017-03-07T17:17:14Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> My bet is that he thinks transwomen are so pathetically desperate for male attention (on account of their being unable to “compete” with “real” women, you know :rolleyes: ) that they would be willing to “settle” for a short man. And what makes him so furious is the (imagined) implied expectation that **he** is likewise so pathetically desperate for female attention that he ought to be willing to “settle” for a “not-real” transwoman, in a cozy little romantic bubble of mutual contempt, resentment and despair.
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> The inside of **DerekMichaels00** ’s head sounds like a horrible place to be, for many reasons that have nothing to do with its smaller-than-average distance from the ground.

Or in the great tradition of so many famous homophobes, he’s secretly attracted to transwomen and is trying to overcompensate to deny and hide this attraction.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/240 "2017-03-07T17:18:43Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Or in the great tradition of so many famous homophobes, he’s secretly attracted to transwomen and is trying to overcompensate to deny and hide this attraction.

I bet his browser search history is “interesting”

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