# Trump, you're making it hard to support you with these wiretap/vote fraud claims! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388 "2017-03-04T16:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/21 "2017-03-04T17:06:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? I certainly hope so. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/22 "2017-03-04T17:08:58Z")
Y’see, **Derek** , m’boy, when you pin your hopes of tasting the tears of your adversaries on an admitted harbinger of chaos, you buy into some of that chaos going the way \*\*\*you \*\*\*don’t want/like. How sure are you that in a few years he won’t decide to fuel his rule on \*your \*tears? > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? Not originally but I am uncertain how I feel that the thread brought it back to my memory after having forgot about it for 30 years. > [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > “AKA transvestitism.” Think Khrushchev in panties, peekaboo bra, and garter belt. Let’s not. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/23 "2017-03-04T17:10:03Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), I don’t think that’s a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/24 "2017-03-04T17:16:04Z")
Cute. All the other things to despise Trump for, they’re fine with it. Now this causes at least one to rethink? Well, at the rate we’re going, if each scandal causes only a single follower to have second thoughts, Trump will be done by the end of the year. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/25 "2017-03-04T17:16:19Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics… Poorly educated working class white men agree with you - time to stop dividing America! There’s only us, and everyone else who is against us. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/26 "2017-03-04T17:17:37Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Cute. All the other things to despise Trump for, they’re fine with it. Now this causes at least one to rethink? > > Well, at the rate we’re going, if each scandal causes only a single follower to have second thoughts, Trump will be done by the end of the year. _Re_-think? _Second_ thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/27 "2017-03-04T17:30:33Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), As usual, The Stubby One gets it wrong. > [@kayaker](#): > > I don’t think that’s a thing. According to [this thread](https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=155174)(from 2011), it seems to be a thing to some weirdos. > [@](#): > > Now as we are here we probably understand the evil disease of capitalism in relation to the abundance on our planet i.e. poverty; the haves and have-nots. > Monogamy/marriage is to relationships as capitalism is to our resources. > The ideal of communism is no private property so none of our earth siblings go without. Monogamy however promotes exclusivity and ownership. And this happens to be our default view on relationships. Based on a quick read, it appears that it means abolishing marriage to increase the supply of available people to fuck. Which I thought Trump was for. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/28 "2017-03-04T17:34:48Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, I’ll just bet you do, sailor boy. _Va-va-VOOM!_ ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/29 "2017-03-04T17:39:59Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Sexual communism? The ugly get to be fucked too. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/30 "2017-03-04T17:44:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > As usual, The Stubby One gets it wrong. > According to [URL=“[https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=155174](https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=155174)”]Based on a quick read, it appears that it means abolishing marriage to increase the supply of available people to fuck. > Which I thought Trump was for. Hang on. Who’s advocating for this, and how do I donate to them? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/31 "2017-03-04T17:45:50Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The ugly get to be fucked too. He’s an equal opportunity motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/32 "2017-03-04T17:48:17Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The ugly get to be fucked too. Yeah, see, I’m liking this idea more and more. I’m not sure about transvestitism. I did wear a super cute little green cotton dress once in college and kind of liked it. Haven’t really tried it again. But, if we’re talking about us unattractive guys getting fucked more often… let’s say I’m willing to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/33 "2017-03-04T17:49:37Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > _Re_-think? _Second_ thoughts? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/34 "2017-03-04T17:49:42Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? I have never ever heard of this english group, Soft Cell or the song Sex Dwarf, but it is so perfect for Derek… It should be reposted for all of his threads. ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/35 "2017-03-04T17:51:02Z")
Now confirmed: Idiocracy turns into documentary. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/36 "2017-03-04T17:52:12Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The ugly get to be fucked too. No doubt the OP will still come up short. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/37 "2017-03-04T18:00:50Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! Heh, who’s the cuck now? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/38 "2017-03-04T18:13:30Z")
Not surprising that **Derek** looks up to Trump; given **Derek’s** height, he looks up to everyone. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/39 "2017-03-04T18:26:55Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The ugly get to be fucked too. We don’t need communism for that. That’s why we have beer! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/40 "2017-03-04T18:27:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? The appreciation for Trump’s “masculism” made me think more of [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QINoUyrP0BI), actually. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388.md?page=3)