# Trump, you're making it hard to support you with these wiretap/vote fraud claims! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 4, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388 "2017-03-04T16:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/41 "2017-03-04T18:37:40Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism, his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), Once again, you provide a great example of the kind of despicable asshole that admires Trump … > [@](#): > > but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! …as well as how stupid someone has to be not to notice before now that Trump is a pathological liar. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/42 "2017-03-04T18:41:01Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Think Khrushchev in panties, peekaboo bra, and garter belt. Great. Now I need a bone saw and a melon baller to get that image out of my head. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/43 "2017-03-04T19:03:52Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism I assume by this you mean masculism is “assaulting women”… and I’m not surprised that a pathetic prick like you likes that. > [@](#): > > his opposition to identity politics, his opposition to unfettered Muslim hijra/immigration into the West, his preference of Israel over Islamic radical “Palestine,” his opposition to sexual communism (aka transvestitism), More support for bullshit, lies, and bigotry, from our resident cowardly bigoted liar. > [@](#): > > but he is making it hard to support him with things like the claim that Obama “wiretapped him,” as well as his voter fraud stuff. He needs to stick to the SOTU Trump, not the Alex Jones one! For **DerekMichaels00** , bigotry, lies, and misogyny are a-okay, but he draws the line at conspiracy theories. No surprise from such a pathetic excuse for an American. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/44 "2017-03-04T19:04:28Z")
Trump’s latest twitter meltdown is indicative of a few things: 1. Trump is really running scared, and knows that there is more information linking him DIRECTLY with Russian involvement in the elections. Perhaps Trump had phone conversations with certain Russians during the election. He is now shit-scared that these will come out. It’s possible that recordings (of Russians) were being made by other government intelligence agencies, and these caught Trump taking to their targets. Trump Being Trump, he is going on the attack. 2. Trump’s mental state is deteriorating, and he is now suffering from paranoid delusions, if not outright psychosis. 3. Trump continues to monitor far-right lunatic websites and radio shows, and one of these nut-cases threw this theory out recently just as chum for their stupid readers/listeners. Trump, being one of those stupid readers/listeners ate it right up. Personally, I think #3, with a dash of #2. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/45 "2017-03-04T19:04:34Z")
[An intel expert’s take](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/838066601870131201): [QUOTE=Malcolm Nance] This is what happens when a target starts getting buggy, because he knows that he’s caught. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/46 "2017-03-04T19:14:19Z")
[QUOTE=DerekMichaels00] … [/QUOTE] Fuck off, bigot. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/47 "2017-03-04T19:22:05Z")
Wouldn’t you prefer not to be a bigot, **DerekMichaels00**? You’ve express your personal repulsion and disgust for trans people, and have never denied it. Do you really want to be a person with such hatred for people who have done nothing to harm you or anyone else? Wouldn’t you prefer to be someone without any such hatred for others? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/48 "2017-03-04T19:31:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Wouldn’t you prefer not to be a bigot, **DerekMichaels00**? You’ve express your personal repulsion and disgust for trans people, and have never denied it. Do you really want to be a person with such hatred for people who have done nothing to harm you or anyone else? **Wouldn’t you prefer to be someone without any such hatred for others?** But then he would feel small. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/49 "2017-03-04T19:40:31Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > But then he would feel small. It feels bigger when he closes his eyes and thinks about Trump’s masculism. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/50 "2017-03-04T19:47:18Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > his opposition to sexual communism Trump wants to seize the means of reproduction. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/51 "2017-03-04T19:57:25Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Trump wants to seize the means of reproduction. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/52 "2017-03-04T20:05:15Z")
This is so Poe’s law that I have to think he’s been putting on some “performance art.” But, if not, I actually want to do something different. The enemy of my enemy may not be my friend, but they can be my ally. This is the stuff we’ve known about Trump for a while. Why don’t you join us in not supporting him, and trying to get him out of power, for the Good of the American People? Maybe you can convince your fellow masculistic friends at the other places you go online that Trump is horrible. I’ll be glad to point out that even people who have beliefs such as yours, who you’d think would love Trump, have trouble with him. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/53 "2017-03-04T20:05:17Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I like President Donald J. Trump’s masculism That’s ironic, since Trump is the biggest pussy we’ve ever had as a president. He’s never once taken any responsibility for any problem - the definition of pussy in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/54 "2017-03-04T20:15:34Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Trump wants to seize the means of reproduction. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/55 "2017-03-04T20:23:40Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > That’s ironic, since Trump is the biggest pussy we’ve ever had as a president. > He’s never once taken any responsibility for any problem - the definition of pussy in my book. He really is a special little snowflake who needs his safe space. But these latest tweets…I’m starting to wonder now if he really is worried that intelligence agencies have something on him and is reacting by vomiting all over Twitter. Maybe, like when he said the fix was in for the election, he’s actually telling the truth here. Oh, I know both those are kind of crazy thoughts, but it does make me wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/56 "2017-03-04T20:40:19Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Am I the only one who heard [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlB77vM2FMg) in their head while reading this post? > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The appreciation for Trump’s “masculism” made me think more of [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QINoUyrP0BI), actually. I just love that I guessed both songs right before clicking on the links. > [@marshmallow](#): > > Trump wants to seize the means of reproduction. You win two internets. ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/57 "2017-03-04T21:10:50Z")
You think a sitting president who access to every intel agency we have, and has the codes to the Nukes, and advisors-who have advisors-who have advisors, would come out and make a tweet like this without having evidence? I suspect, like I’ve come to realize over the last several months, that Trump is in a “bait” stage and waiting to hammer the libs when they have trapped themselves into a narrative. Liberals are an enemy of this country. They’ve proven that. They lie, cheat, and do everything to is counter-productive to National security, sovereignty, economic prosperity. Enemy of the people. The media is in bed with them and part of the problem Ladies and Gentlemen, you are witnessing the end of the “Democratic” Party. Do you think it was a coincidence that Trump waited until AFTER the DNC allied itself with the Obama/Hilarryites, and tossed the Sanders crowd on thier assses? The other shoe just dropped. 🙂 bye. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/58 "2017-03-04T21:14:07Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > You think a sitting president who access to every intel agency we have, and has the codes to the Nukes, and advisors-who have advisors-who have advisors, would come out and make a tweet like this without having evidence? > snip > The other shoe just dropped. 🙂 bye. Please don’t go! You’re funny! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/59 "2017-03-04T21:18:04Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > You think a sitting president who access to every intel agency we have, and has the codes to the Nukes, and advisors-who have advisors-who have advisors, would come out and make a tweet like this without having evidence? > I suspect, like I’ve come to realize over the last several months, that Trump is in a “bait” stage and waiting to hammer the libs when they have trapped themselves into a narrative. > Liberals are an enemy of this country. They’ve proven that. They lie, cheat, and do everything to is counter-productive to National security, sovereignty, economic prosperity. > Enemy of the people. The media is in bed with them and part of the problem > > Ladies and Gentlemen, you are witnessing the end of the “Democratic” Party. > > Do you think it was a coincidence that Trump waited until AFTER the DNC allied itself with the Obama/Hilarryites, and tossed the Sanders crowd on thier assses? I doubt Trump views liberals as enemies of the state, or even much cares who is an enemy of the state. He’s just lashing out at whoever seems to be an enemy of him personally, and that’s pretty much everyone who hasn’t publicly recognized his greatness or hasn’t publicly recognized it _enough_. If he’d run and won as a Democrat (not a far-fetched hypothetical at all, I figure), it’d be the most recent Republican president who’d persecuted him. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388/60 "2017-03-04T21:19:37Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > You think a sitting president who access to every intel agency we have, and has the codes to the Nukes, and advisors-who have advisors-who have advisors, would come out and make a tweet like this without having evidence? > I suspect, like I’ve come to realize over the last several months, that Trump is in a “bait” stage and waiting to hammer the libs when they have trapped themselves into a narrative. You are an extremely naive and gullible person. > [@](#): > > Liberals are an enemy of this country. They’ve proven that. They lie, cheat, and do everything to is counter-productive to National security, sovereignty, economic prosperity. > Enemy of the people. The media is in bed with them and part of the problem No u. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-youre-making-it-hard-to-support-you-with-these-wiretap-vote-fraud-claims/781388.md?page=4)