# Trumpcare

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 7, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625 "2017-03-07T15:57:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/401 "2017-03-24T19:44:16Z")

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Yes, I enjoyed that immensely, with apologies to **jsgoddess**. It was _very_ satisfying. Who knew healthcare could be so complicated indeed.

I’m going to laugh every time I think about this for months. Years possibly.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/402 "2017-03-24T19:46:12Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> And, as of 3:36 Eastern, according to what I’m seeing on MSNBC, the GOP has pulled the bill before the vote.

Seeing it on CNN and Slate too.

To borrow from the late Jimmy Breslin, the GOP is “The Gang that Couldn’t Vote Straight”.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/403 "2017-03-24T19:48:06Z")

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I’m losing years from my life over here.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/404 "2017-03-24T19:50:21Z")

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The bill’s been pulled at Trump’s request. Which…what…lol wasn’t he JUST threatening them to vote?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/405 "2017-03-24T19:53:38Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> The bill’s been pulled at Trump’s request. Which…what…lol wasn’t he JUST threatening them to vote?

Rats and a sinking ship springs to mind. A vote would probably had very bad optics.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/406 "2017-03-24T19:53:50Z")

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So… will Trump stand by his bluff that repeal is now off the table and he will move on?

Or will he say: " I said, I’ll move on when it doesn’t get enough votes. Technically, there hasn’t been a vote, so I can still try and get it repealed whenever I need a distraction. "

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/407 "2017-03-24T19:54:23Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> and, as of 3:36 eastern, according to what i’m seeing on msnbc, the gop has pulled the bill before the vote.

ding dong, the bill is dead!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/408 "2017-03-24T19:55:45Z")

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Awwwwww yeahhhhhh

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/409 "2017-03-24T20:05:13Z")

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Steaks  
University  
Vodka  
Airlines  
Casinos  
Care

The man can’t do anything right.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/410 "2017-03-24T20:06:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Tweeted by Senator Bob Menendez**
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> Hey Republicans, don’t worry, that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act

Ouch

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/411 "2017-03-24T20:06:43Z")

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The problem with the bill was that it provided no coverage for chronic stupidity and lying.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/412 "2017-03-24T20:09:01Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> The problem with the bill was that it provided no coverage for chronic stupidity and lying.

“You can’t fix stupid.”

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/413 "2017-03-24T20:09:05Z")

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According to CNN, some (most? pretty much all of the?) House Democrats are chanting, “Vote! Vote! Vote! Vote!” Is that such a wise thing to do? Don’t they risk some Republicans switching from No to Yes just to spite the Democrats?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/414 "2017-03-24T20:18:22Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> According to CNN, some (most? pretty much all of the?) House Democrats are chanting, “Vote! Vote! Vote! Vote!” Is that such a wise thing to do? Don’t they risk some Republicans switching from No to Yes just to spite the Democrats?

They need less than 15 Republicans to vote No. With the monstrosity that is the current AHCA, many moderate Republicans, especially those from the Northeast, consider it political suicide.

The Tea Party just saved Obamacare - figure that shit out.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/415 "2017-03-24T20:19:21Z")

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Did CNN seriously just quote Ryan as saying “Doing big things is hard”??? Wow lol

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**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/416 "2017-03-24T20:19:33Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> According to CNN, some (most? pretty much all of the?) House Democrats are chanting, “Vote! Vote! Vote! Vote!” Is that such a wise thing to do? Don’t they risk some Republicans switching from No to Yes just to spite the Democrats?

They’re trolling them. No one in the GOP wants this stain on their permanent record.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/417 "2017-03-24T20:20:12Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> According to CNN, some (most? pretty much all of the?) House Democrats are chanting, “Vote! Vote! Vote! Vote!” Is that such a wise thing to do? Don’t they risk some Republicans switching from No to Yes just to spite the Democrats?

Spite the democrats how? best thing for democrats would be if this thing passes.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/418 "2017-03-24T20:27:15Z")

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> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Did CNN seriously just quote Ryan as saying “Doing big things is hard”??? Wow lol

But…but… this isn’t a big thing. Remember when Sean Spicer showed us the AHCA next to the ACA and how he pointed out very, very specifically that this was a teeny, tiny speck of a thing?  
Or is doing little things hard, too?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/419 "2017-03-24T20:28:41Z")

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Ryan just spoke and started the process of letting Obamacare die, saying:

"… the worst is yet to come with Obamacare "

“What I am worried about … is the coming premium increases with a death spiraling health system”.

“I don’t think the law as it is fashioned or anything close to it is really going to be able to survive”

Without the mandate and without enforcing the ACA, I fear it will all come true.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/420 "2017-03-24T20:29:01Z")

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Now comes the drinking.

Well, for everyone else in the office, at least. 😃

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