# Trumpcare **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 7, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625 "2017-03-07T15:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/701 "2017-05-04T18:03:01Z")
Rape is a pre-existing condition that can lead to higher premiums, so is having a C-section, or surviving domestic violence. Cite: [http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/under-new-healthcare-bill-rape-is-a-pre-existing-condition.html](http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/under-new-healthcare-bill-rape-is-a-pre-existing-condition.html) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/702 "2017-05-04T18:04:29Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > Matt Fuller is one of the best vote-counters around and his Twitter [feed](https://twitter.com/MEPFuller?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)is probably the go-to place to keep up on what’s happening. He seems to think it will be tight but the bill will pass. Which is truly astonishing given the limited debate, lack of a new CBO score and the massive stakes involved. > > While it will be difficult for this to pass the Senate, it would be foolish to rely on Republican “moderates” to stop something the rest of the party wants. The Democrats will have to mobilize all the energy they can muster to stop this in the Senate and if that fails they need to make sure this becomes the defining issue of the next two election cycles and indeed something that will be remembered for decades as a GOP-made disaster. Agreed on both points. I follow Matt Fuller and so should everyone who likes this stuff. He’s also funny! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/703 "2017-05-04T18:13:09Z")
What happened to the Republican platform plank that said that all legislation must be made available for reading on the Internet for three days prior to voting? Somebody asked Darrell Issa what his stand was on the legislation, and he told them, “None of your business.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/704 "2017-05-04T18:18:03Z")
Fuck. 216. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/705 "2017-05-04T18:19:03Z")
Those pigs are now singing “Na na na na hey hey hey good bye” on the House floor. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/706 "2017-05-04T18:19:56Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Those pigs are now singing “Na na na na hey hey hey good bye” on the House floor. They will hear it sung to them next year. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/707 "2017-05-04T18:20:23Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > They will hear it sung to them next year. I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/708 "2017-05-04T18:20:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > What happened to the Republican platform plank that said that all legislation must be made available for reading on the Internet for three days prior to voting? > > Somebody asked Darrell Issa what his stand was on the legislation, and he told them, “None of your business.” Trump told you _months_ ago this was going to happen. That’s not good enough? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/709 "2017-05-04T18:21:51Z")
The GOP is supposed to be bussed to the WH rose garden for victory celebration. If the buses crash, are they covered? Nah, never mind. They’re using short buses. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/710 "2017-05-04T18:36:44Z")
Psychic test: Can anyone guess which finger I’m holding up? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/711 "2017-05-04T18:39:43Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Those pigs are now singing “Na na na na hey hey hey good bye” on the House floor. Now I’m reading it was the Dems singing it to the Pubs. Having that song be directed at Republican Congresscritters sits better with me than having Republican Congresscritters direct it at the healthcare of 24 million Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Caldazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Caldazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caldazar)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/712 "2017-05-04T18:44:09Z")
Vote results from the Clerk’s Office: [http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml](http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/713 "2017-05-04T18:46:11Z")
> [@Caldazar](#): > > Vote results from the Clerk’s Office: [http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml](http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml) All of the CA GOP voted for it. I’m surprised by that. I guess others looked more vulnerable. As a reminder, put aside thinking that the Senate is more moderate therefore this can’t pass there. It all depends on politics. This isn’t about policy. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/714 "2017-05-04T18:54:07Z")
> [@Caldazar](#): > > Vote results from the Clerk’s Office: [http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml](http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll256.xml) I wonder how many Republicans voted against it once they realized that it had enough votes to pass. Apparently, at least two did; the graphic on CNN shows 216 votes in favor, and 4 Republicans not voting, but eventually two of the four voted against it (one in favor, and one did not vote). ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/715 "2017-05-04T18:56:37Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > I wonder how many Republicans voted against it once they realized that it had enough votes to pass. Apparently, at least two did; the graphic on CNN shows 216 votes in favor, and 4 Republicans not voting, but eventually two of the four voted against it (one in favor, and one did not vote). My guess? 20. If they had needed all of those votes, I think they probably could have gotten them, with the potential exception of Ros-Lehtinen. They did just enough to get just enough. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/716 "2017-05-04T18:58:45Z")
The House Republicans are flying home to bask in the loving approval of their constituents. Interesting times. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/717 "2017-05-04T19:21:16Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The House Republicans are flying home to bask in the loving approval of their constituents. Interesting times. Personally I’d organize a lynch mob or two. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/718 "2017-05-04T19:28:05Z")
Policy-making solely as spite. I hope this soothes the little infant’s ego. Are we calling it Trumpdontcare or Trumpnocare? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/719 "2017-05-04T19:55:29Z")
They should have made sure to pass it by two votes. Now, each and every one of them was “the deciding vote”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625/720 "2017-05-04T20:00:03Z")
Every Republican who voted yes will have ads run against them pointing out that they voted to exempt themselves from the effects of this bill: > **[Congress Exempt From Some Republican Health Plan Cuts](https://www.newsweek.com/american-care-act-congress-staff-exempt-594564)** > > Representative Tom MacArthur said he will close the loophole in a separate piece of legislation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumpcare/781625.md?page=37)