# Trumps 757? What happened to it, where is it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 3, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122 "2018-02-03T21:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/1 "2018-02-03T21:36:00Z")
Where is trumps Boing 757? Was it a leased plane? Is it sitting in a hanger somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/2 "2018-02-03T23:57:28Z")
N757AF is blocked from public tracking, according to FlightAware, so you’d have to depend on visual spotting. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/3 "2018-02-04T01:10:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > N757AF is blocked from public tracking, according to FlightAware, so you’d have to depend on visual spotting. Is it AF or FA? Not that it makes a huge difference but different sources/articles seem to differ on the subject. Nothing real current but the general topic and ramifications of his “air force” are discussed here [http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/trumps-private-jet](http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/trumps-private-jet) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/4 "2018-02-04T01:13:18Z")
Visiting some family in FL for Thanksgiving last November I saw it parked at PBI. So it was still around and near an area of his interest as of a couple of months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/5 "2018-02-04T01:29:12Z")
N757AF is actually visible on [Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/@26.6789906,-80.093479,88a,35y,2.7h,43.38t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&authuser=0) right now. It’s at the aforementioned Palm Beach International Airport outside the western clump of hangars (which I’d imagine aren’t big enough to hold a 757), near the start of runway 32. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/6 "2018-02-04T01:37:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > N757AF is blocked from public tracking, according to FlightAware, so you’d have to depend on visual spotting. The block is purely voluntary; there are [other sites](https://flight-data.adsbexchange.com/activity?inputSelect=registration®istration=N757af) that do not participate in that scrubbing of the data. For example, N757AF made several trips in January, most recently on Jan 21 when it flew up from Florida to La Guardia. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/7 "2018-02-04T03:58:56Z")
Which raises the question, what does happen to private vehicles and residences of candidates who get elected to high office. What happened to Obama’s car? Bushe’s yatches? Carter’s house? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/8 "2018-02-04T04:53:12Z")
Of course, **Kimble** , you know that Google Maps isn’t a reflection of where anything might be right now, but only where it was the last time Google photographed that area. One could in principle have the same person or object show up in many places on Google Maps, or nowhere at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/9 "2018-02-04T05:43:26Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Carter’s house? He kept it, still lives in it, and plans to be buried in the front yard when he dies. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/10 "2018-02-04T05:53:09Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > Is it AF or FA? Not that it makes a huge difference but different sources/articles seem to differ on the subject. > > Nothing real current but the general topic and ramifications of his “air force” are discussed here > [http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/trumps-private-jet](http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/trumps-private-jet) Alpha-Foxtrot. (See the photo in your link. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/11 "2018-02-04T13:35:50Z")
Thanks all. I doubt this can be answered, but I wonder if it’s being used, rented in any way. This might be able to be answered, what would the daily cost be for maintaining such a plane. And parking/ramp fees must be quite high. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/12 "2018-02-04T13:48:43Z")
It appears to still be used by the Trump Organization. The most recent flights recorded on [adsbexchange.com](http://adsbexchange.com) were from NYC to southern Florida on January 17th and back on the 21st, which is when Eric Trump attended the inaugural anniversary festivities in Palm Beach. ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/13 "2018-02-04T16:16:19Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Which raises the question, what does happen to private vehicles and residences of candidates who get elected to high office. What happened to Obama’s car? Bushe’s yatches? Carter’s house? I recall seeing an Ebay auction for Obama’s car. I do not recall the one million dollar asking price: > **[Obama's Chrysler 300 on sale for $1 million](https://money.cnn.com/2012/01/26/autos/barack-obama-chrysler-300c/index.htm)** > > A Chrysler 300C once leased by President Barack Obama is for sale on eBay with an "opening bid" of $1 million. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/14 "2018-02-04T16:37:07Z")
Obama kept his house in Chicago and he now owns a DC place too. Clinton did not own a house while in the White House but he bought the NY state house not long before he left office. Most presidents keep their houses after being elected . Reagan bought a house after he left office and the address was 666 but they changed it to 665. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/15 "2018-02-04T16:37:31Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Thanks all. I doubt this can be answered, but I wonder if it’s being used, rented in any way. > > This might be able to be answered, what would the daily cost be for maintaining such a plane. And parking/ramp fees must be quite high. I’d bet on him leasing it to the government… ---
**Author:** ![busterpickle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@busterpickle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/busterpickle)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/16 "2018-02-05T07:04:31Z")
Do planes require minimum time to “be flown”? Or, can you just maintain them indefinitely and the plane never leaves the tarmac? ---
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/17 "2018-02-05T13:47:11Z")
I had read that after the inauguration the president was not allowed to travel on aircraft except Air Force One. Apparently it has a large number of electronic countermeasures and other safety and protection features… but as others point out, there are plenty of other Trumps that could use that plane, all that has to happen is the aircraft owner charges the Secret Service for any accompanying guards. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/18 "2018-02-06T05:11:20Z")
> [@electronbee](#): > > Do planes require minimum time to “be flown”? Or, can you just maintain them indefinitely and the plane never leaves the tarmac? They don’t have to be flown, though it can be useful to do so. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/19 "2018-02-06T06:20:28Z")
> [@electronbee](#): > > Do planes require minimum time to “be flown”? Or, can you just maintain them indefinitely and the plane never leaves the tarmac? I think aircraft maintenance schedules are typically written like automobile schedules. “X flight hours OR Y months, whichever is first”. Except that you cannot legally ignore maintenance schedules but must follow them or the FAA will not certify the plane as airworthy. So what this means in practice is that it’s costing the Trump family money if it’s just sitting because they are paying maintenance and hanger costs but not getting any utility from it. It would make sense to have the aircraft do flights for others, etc. Of course, if Trump really is a billionaire, I guess it doesn’t really matter. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122/20 "2018-02-06T18:29:21Z")
From what I’ve read about Trump’s businesses, Trump and/or the Trump companies never actually owned any of the planes and helicopters that bore his name. They were all leased. The same goes for Trump’s fleet of limousines. It’s not unusual for even airlines to lease most of their planes. In the Trump companies, it gets rather more complicated, what with Trump planes being used to ferry high rollers to and from Trump casinos. I won’t venture any further. This is General Questions, so I dasn’t get political. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-757-what-happened-to-it-where-is-it/808122.md?page=2)