# Trump's ambassador to the Netherlands doubles down on embarrassing the US **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 22, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051 "2017-12-22T16:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/1 "2017-12-22T16:00:11Z")
Pete Hoekstra, former Congressman (Tea Party), now ambassador to the Netherlands is asked to comment on his previous claims that there are No-Go zones in the Netherlands. PH: I didn’t say that. That is actually an incorrect statement. Yeah, we would call it fake news. Is shown footage of his clear statement about the horrible state of the Netherlands in 2015, including “And yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands.” PH: I didn’t call _that_ fake news, I didn’t use those words [garbled] today. Journalist looks exasperated towards the camera. PH: I don’t think I did. _chuckle_ > ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/2 "2017-12-22T16:12:30Z")
Well, dam. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/3 "2017-12-22T16:28:07Z")
Yet another of our West Michigan trophies doing us proud in the Trump admin. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/4 "2017-12-22T16:28:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Well, dam. I sea what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/5 "2017-12-22T16:34:30Z")
How do you know he’s lying? His tulips are moving. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/6 "2017-12-22T18:35:18Z")
Just another example of this administration’s diplomatic malpractice. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/7 "2017-12-22T18:49:29Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Just another example of this administration’s diplomatic malpractice. This administration doesn’t want diplomacy. It’s intentionally destroying relations with allies and exacerbating disagreements with foes. The Diplomacy of Marshall, Rusk, Acheson, and Dulles? Dead. Gone. Replaced with Commodore Matthew Perry. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/8 "2017-12-22T19:33:05Z")
Perry was competent. This sort of thing is, if you think about it, exactly what Vladimir Putin would want. How about that, huh? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/9 "2017-12-22T19:37:18Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Perry was competent. > > This sort of thing is, if you think about it, exactly what Vladimir Putin would want. How about that, huh? Putin is playing the Republican regime like a violin. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/10 "2017-12-22T19:56:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Well, dam. We’re not going to let you skate around the thread topic like that. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/11 "2017-12-22T20:02:44Z")
I found it somewhat amusing that this news item came out the same day as this one: > **[The Trump Administration and the United Nations: A Good News Story](https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-administration-and-united-nations-good-news-story)** > > My hat is off to the Trump administration’s deft diplomacy in the United Nations Security Council. I’m curious who is responsible for the good work in this case. Nikki Haley? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/12 "2017-12-22T20:23:08Z")
I hope the people in the Netherlands know how sorry we, the American people, are about what happened in 2016. We are embarrassed beyond description. We are more embarrassed than we were that time Bush puked in the Japanese Prim minister’s lap. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/13 "2017-12-22T20:32:49Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > We’re not going to let you skate around the thread topic like that. There’s been a lot of bad puns in this thread, but this one is a bridge too far. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/14 "2017-12-22T20:51:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > There’s been a lot of bad puns in this thread, but this one is a bridge too far. Now you’re just tilting at windmills. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/15 "2017-12-22T21:28:43Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Now you’re just tilting at windmills. Quit Haaging all the bad puns. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/16 "2017-12-22T22:07:27Z")
Quit clogging the boards with Dutch puns. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/17 "2017-12-22T22:10:17Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Quit clogging the boards with Dutch puns. Gogh away! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/18 "2017-12-23T02:48:52Z")
He’s just practicing Brinkermanship on behalf of his boss (who has small Hans). ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/19 "2017-12-23T03:53:13Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > He’s just practicing Brinkermanship on behalf of his boss (who has small Hans). Gouda one! Though I bet he don’t give Edam. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051/20 "2017-12-23T07:26:24Z")
Gouda 'nuff. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ambassador-to-the-netherlands-doubles-down-on-embarrassing-the-us/805051.md?page=2)