# Trump's appoval rating with African Amercians. 36% **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 20, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926 "2018-08-20T17:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/1 "2018-08-20T17:41:13Z")
Trump won just 8% of the African American vote in 2016. Since then his approval rating with African Americans has skyrocketed to 36%, probably due to him improving the economy, giving tax breaks to middle class and working class individuals, and having record low in-employment. Even jobs such as manufacturing, and Obama once said are not coming back are. The optics of tariffs also makes some think that more domestic companies and new companies might be hiring more people in the USA. If Trump can merely double the percentage of the African American vote in 2020, ( say 16% of the African American vote or higher ) Democrats will be in some trouble as they count on 88-90+% of the African American vote to win elections. What is the correlation to approval ratings in a demographic group to votes for him or her on election day? > **[Trump at 36 percent approval among African-Americans: poll](https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/donald-trump-african-american-approval-rating/)** > > That is a staggeringly high number for a man who only won 8 percent of the African-American vote in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/2 "2018-08-20T17:46:00Z")
Rasmussen is well known for highly biased polls in favor of the Right. You know that. The economy was on a long trend of improvement Since 2009. Ditto on unemployment. Thanks, Obama. The “tax cuts” are paltry and temporary while the TAX CUTS for the wealthy are permanent. Along with the resultant increased deficits. Thanks, Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/3 "2018-08-20T17:46:40Z")
That high? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/4 "2018-08-20T17:52:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That high? Probably not. Rasmussen is not good at polling. Here is some other data from pollsters with better track records: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/08/17/no-one-third-of-african-americans-dont-support-trump-not-even-close/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.81989f3377e0](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/08/17/no-one-third-of-african-americans-dont-support-trump-not-even-close/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.81989f3377e0) ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/5 "2018-08-20T17:52:30Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Rasmussen is well known for highly biased polls in favor of the Right. You know that. > The economy was on a long trend of improvement Since 2009. Ditto on unemployment. > Thanks, Obama. > The “tax cuts” are paltry and temporary while the TAX CUTS for the wealthy are permanent. > Along with the resultant increased deficits. > Thanks, Trump. Use other pols if you wish, they all say his approval rating is significantly higher among African Americans. As for deficits, Trump won’t come close to catching Obama. But by reversing many of his economic politics, regulation, and taxes, the economy is trending for the better since he took office. Chew on this: \*\* NAACP’s own poll reveals surge in black support for Trump.\*\* Do you think they are biased on this topic, running coach? Well? Read more: [NAACP's own poll reveals surge in black support for Trump – and they react badly - American Thinker](https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/naacps_own_poll_reveals_surge_in_black_support_for_trump__and_they_react_badly.html#ixzz5Ok4AebcF) Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook [https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/08/trumps-approval-rating-african-americans-hits-record-high/](https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/08/trumps-approval-rating-african-americans-hits-record-high/) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/6 "2018-08-20T17:59:49Z")
[Don’t Believe The Hype About Black Folks Supporting Trump, Analyst Says](https://newsone.com/3822650/approval-polls-trump-african-americans-rasmussen-reports/) > [@](#): > > The GOP-leaning Rasmussen appears to have reported results it set out to find. Other pollsters performed far more rigorous studies, Tesler stated. He pointed, for example, to Gallup and Ipsos/Reuters that interviewed thousands of African American respondents in 2018 and placed Trump’s Black approval rating at around 10 to 15 percent in 2018. Meanwhile, Civiqs, which has interviewed more than 140,000 respondents in 2017 and 2018, has consistently placed the approval rating in the single digits. [Donald Trump’s Approval Rating Among Black Americans Is Actually Too Good to Be True](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-black-americans-1078598) > [@](#): > > Gallup showed his current approval rating at 13 percent with an average fluctuation between 10 and 15 percent. Reuters also indicated a current approval rating of 13 percent among black voters with peaks of about 18 percent in February 2017 and May 2018. Numerous YouGov/Economist surveys from July and August also showed an average of a 13 percent approval rating. Only about 9 percent of black Americans approved of Trump in multiple Quinnipiac University surveys in the past two months. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/7 "2018-08-20T18:01:11Z")
So, you’re saying a sizable number of African Americans are deplorable too? I guess that would be true of any segment of society. If Trump receives more than 10% of the African American vote in 2020 (assuming he’s on the ballot) I’ll eat a MAGA hat. Bookmark this post. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/8 "2018-08-20T18:08:23Z")
Neat! If his approval keeps doubling, it’ll probably be like, over 350% by the time the first N-word tape goes viral! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/9 "2018-08-20T18:10:28Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > So, you’re saying a sizable number of African Americans are deplorable too? I guess that would be true of any segment of society. > > If Trump receives more than 10% of the African American vote in 2020 (assuming he’s on the ballot) I’ll eat a MAGA hat. Bookmark this post. More than 10% is just 2% and a fraction more than he got in 2016. If you use the NAACP poll, you might get a hat trick of MAGA heats to eat. Nothing I said has anything to do with deplorable. I’m still wondering what the correlation of approval ratings to votes on election day is. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/10 "2018-08-20T18:15:42Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > More than 10% is just 2% and a fraction more than he got in 2016. > > If you use the NAACP poll, you might get a hat trick of MAGA heats to eat. > > Nothing I said has anything to do with deplorable. > > I’m still wondering what the correlation of approval ratings to votes on election day is. Got links to any of these polls you’re quoting? Some reason you can’t be bothered to do so in your OP? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/11 "2018-08-20T18:25:36Z")
**Silver** , serious question - is there some place I can go to sign up to get the daily talking points to spread on message boards, Facebook, Twitter, etc? I’m looking to make a few extra bucks and figure it’s something I could handle. Thx! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/12 "2018-08-20T18:32:37Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > Nothing I said has anything to do with deplorable. Unless you’re a Russian, supporting Trump is deplorable. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/13 "2018-08-20T18:33:05Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Got links to any of these polls you’re quoting? > Some reason you can’t be bothered to do so in your OP? They’re all listed in that article linked in the OP. My understanding of Silver Lining at this point is that he doesn’t tend to represent the numbers in his cites with any degree of accuracy, so it’s worth reading them yourself to figure out what the numbers really are. For instance, here he compares actual voter numbers with a single cherry-picked poll’s results to suggest that Trump’s approval has “skyrocketed.” That’s so ridiculous that it’s impossible to take anything else in the OP seriously. The only thing that I’m curious about is what Rasmussen reported African American approval of Trump to be in their earliest numbers. Can anyone find that? All I can find is their overall approval trend numbers, not broken out by race. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/14 "2018-08-20T18:39:31Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > T **hey’re all listed in that article linked in the OP.** > > My understanding of Silver Lining at this point is that he doesn’t tend to represent the numbers in his cites with any degree of accuracy, so it’s worth reading them yourself to figure out what the numbers really are. For instance, here he compares actual voter numbers with a single cherry-picked poll’s results to suggest that Trump’s approval has “skyrocketed.” > > That’s so ridiculous that it’s impossible to take anything else in the OP seriously. > > The only thing that I’m curious about is what Rasmussen reported African American approval of Trump to be in their earliest numbers. Can anyone find that? All I can find is their overall approval trend numbers, not broken out by race. They’re not. You get today’s Rasmussen’s Daily tracking page with no way to get to previous days. Even thought the link is to the 16th, you still get today’s page. The poll in question was several days ago. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/15 "2018-08-20T18:39:52Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > They’re all listed in that article linked in the OP. > > My understanding of Silver Lining at this point is that he doesn’t tend to represent the numbers in his cites with any degree of accuracy, so it’s worth reading them yourself to figure out what the numbers really are. For instance, here he compares actual voter numbers with a single cherry-picked poll’s results to suggest that Trump’s approval has “skyrocketed.” > > That’s so ridiculous that it’s impossible to take anything else in the OP seriously. > > The only thing that I’m curious about is what Rasmussen reported African American approval of Trump to be in their earliest numbers. Can anyone find that? All I can find is their overall approval trend numbers, not broken out by race. The Post article I linked to above linked to [this](https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1029749433129492480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1029749433129492480&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fmonkey-cage%2Fwp%2F2018%2F08%2F17%2Fno-one-third-of-african-americans-dont-support-trump-not-even-close%2F) Rasmussen tweet which said it was 19% a year before. No idea about farther back than that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/16 "2018-08-20T18:45:27Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > The Post article I linked to above linked to [this](https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1029749433129492480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1029749433129492480&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fmonkey-cage%2Fwp%2F2018%2F08%2F17%2Fno-one-third-of-african-americans-dont-support-trump-not-even-close%2F) Rasmussen tweet which said it was 19% a year before. No idea about farther back than that. The link in the tweet doesn’t go anywhere except today’s tracking page. I don’t think Rasmussen wants the poll itself seen. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/17 "2018-08-20T18:49:11Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > The link in the tweet doesn’t go anywhere except today’s tracking page. > I don’t think Rasmussen wants the poll itself seen. Yeah, Rasmussen is a joke outfit. I was just answering with the only claim I’ve seen for earlier results. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/18 "2018-08-20T19:01:04Z")
> [@Silver\_lining](#): > > Read more: [NAACP's own poll reveals surge in black support for Trump – and they react badly - American Thinker](https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/08/naacps_own_poll_reveals_surge_in_black_support_for_trump__and_they_react_badly.html#ixzz5Ok4AebcF) > [@](#): > > [Factual Reporting: MIXED](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/) > > Notes: American Thinker is a conservative daily online magazine dealing with American politics, foreign policy, national security, Israel, economics, diplomacy, culture and military strategy. The American Thinker demonstrates a right bias through wording and story selection. They have also failed a few fact checks such as this [one](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/shahada-been-there/). (7/18/2016) Updated (6/26/2017) … ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/19 "2018-08-20T19:01:25Z")
Ima do a super irritating multiquote. Skip if you hate being irritated. > [@Silver\_lining](#): > > If you use the NAACP poll, you might get a hat trick of MAGA heats to eat. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Got links to any of these polls you’re quoting? > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > They’re all listed in that article linked in the OP. > [@running\_coach](#): > > They’re not. You get today’s Rasmussen’s Daily tracking page with no way to get to previous days. Even thought the link is to the 16th, you still get today’s page. The poll in question was several days ago. > [@Silver Lining's link from OP](#): > > An NAACP poll released on Aug. 7 found that Trump’s approval rating was at 21 percent. And a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center in June found Trump’s approval rating among blacks at 14 percent. That NAACP poll seemed to be what you were asking for. If you were asking for Rasmussen’s tracking polls, though, you’re right that they’re not linked. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926/20 "2018-08-20T19:07:17Z")
Where can one find earlier NAACP poll results to verify that approval did indeed “skyrocket”? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-appoval-rating-with-african-amercians-36/819926.md?page=2)