# Trumps Calls With Foreign Leaders Embarrasing, Bullying, Uninformed and Disasterous

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730 "2020-06-30T03:43:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/82 "2020-07-02T13:14:35Z")

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“Why isn’t anyone talking about all the icebergs I _didn’t_ hit? So unfair!”

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/83 "2020-07-02T13:26:00Z")

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…and the dishonest, lamestream media keep focusing on the 1503 people who died. Why don’t they talk about the 705 who lived? That’s a tremendous number, believe me! Nobody’s seen survival numbers like that!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/84 "2020-07-02T13:40:59Z")

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It’s the most people that ever survived when a ship collided with an iceberg. People don’t know that.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/85 "2020-07-02T13:46:51Z")

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Steel is very powerful and cannot be damaged by the very weak ice! Fake news!

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/86 "2020-07-02T13:51:35Z")

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“I didn’t hit that iceberg! Just look at the face of that iceberg; I don’t think so!”

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/87 "2020-07-02T13:53:16Z")

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A lot of people are saying those icebergs originated from China, and China didn’t do enough to stop their spread. I’ve heard a lot of nicknames for those Chinese icebergs-- “ricebergs”…

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/88 "2020-07-02T13:58:15Z")

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“And no one’s talking about how tremendous the trip was before we hit the iceberg! People were coming up to me and saying, ‘Sir, this is just the best trip ever! How do you know so much about trips?’ Why focus on the one minute we were hitting an iceberg, and not the many days, so many days, we spent _not_ hitting icebergs?”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/89 "2020-07-02T13:58:15Z")

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_ **OBJECTION!** _

A riceberg is the bits of rice that have clumped together; this particularly happens when cooked rice is stored in the fridge.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/90 "2020-07-02T14:02:27Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> “And no one’s talking about how tremendous the trip was before we hit the iceberg! People were coming up to me and saying, ‘Sir, this is just the best trip ever! How do you know so much about trips?’ Why focus on the one minute we were hitting an iceberg, and not the many days, so many days, we spent _not_ hitting icebergs?”

A big old general, fought in the Boer War, straight out of central casting, he had tears in his eyes, and he said, “Sir, best trip ever.”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/91 "2020-07-02T14:15:57Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Did you know only the tip of the iceberg is above water? Few people know this.

Seriously, when the Orange Ignoramus uses phrases like “Many people don’t know that …” it’s code for “I just learned this”, because someone just told him, or someone had the guts to correct him (and was probably fired soon after). Like the fact that Finland is not part of Russia; thinking it was, was one of the reasons he originally objected to Helsinki for the Putin summit, according to Bolton’s book. Or that injecting Clorox bleach is not a good idea, for treating COVID-19 or anything else. Thanks to the Orange Ignoramus, [there is now a pop-up warning on the Clorox website the first time you visit](https://www.clorox.com/) that should never have been necessary in any sane world: “An Important Safety Message: Bleach and other disinfectants are not suitable for consumption or injection under any circumstances …”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/92 "2020-07-02T14:17:12Z")

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The reason it looks like we are sinking is that people keep looking at the water level. I keep telling my crew, please stop looking at the water.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/93 "2020-07-02T14:41:41Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Thanks to the Orange Ignoramus, [there is now a pop-up warning on the Clorox website the first time you visit](https://www.clorox.com/) that should never have been necessary in any sane world: “An Important Safety Message: Bleach and other disinfectants are not suitable for consumption or injection under any circumstances …”

Oh man, we are really living in an alternate Onionverse. You don’t know whether to laugh or cry sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/94 "2020-07-02T14:46:15Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Thanks to the Orange Ignoramus, [there is now a pop-up warning on the Clorox website the first time you visit](https://www.clorox.com/) that should never have been necessary in any sane world: “An Important Safety Message: Bleach and other disinfectants are not suitable for consumption or injection under any circumstances …”

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> ## An Important Safety Message
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> Bleach and other disinfectants are not suitable for consumption or injection under any circumstances. People should always read the label for proper usage instructions. Disinfecting surfaces with bleach and other disinfecting products is one of the ways to help stop the spread of COVID-19, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Our products are safe when used as directed. It’s critical that everyone understands the facts in order to keep themselves safe and healthy.

Is it worse that people would listen to this advice from Trump?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/95 "2020-07-02T14:49:55Z")

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I met with the President of the Arctic and he has denied making icebergs very strongly. I’ll say this – I don’t know why it would be the Arctic.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/96 "2020-07-02T14:53:38Z")

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Also the President of the Arctic said they rake the Arctic Ocean for icebergs to keep it safer. We should be raking the Atlantic Ocean for icebergs on a regular basis.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/97 "2020-07-02T15:32:49Z")

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It could have been an iceberg. It could have been some 400-pound block of ice in New Jersey, no one knows.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/98 "2020-07-02T16:07:58Z")

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Today, I have signed an executive order closing America’s southern border to iceberg caravans, until we find out what the hell is going on. #iceWALL#migrantritas

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/99 "2020-07-02T16:50:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I met with the President of the Arctic and he has denied making icebergs very strongly. I’ll say this – I don’t know why it would be the Arctic.

Officials like John Bolton who have met with Putin several times invariably characterize him as shrewd, intelligent, and very well-informed, as one might expect of someone in that position who was also formerly director of the FSB (successor to the KGB). Dealing with the Orange Ignoramus must be for him like dealing with a not-very-bright six-year-old. Putin does deserve real credit, though – maybe an Academy Award – for his ability to keep a straight face during events like the joint presser after the Helsinki summit. Anyone else would not have been able to resist at least smirking if not laughing his ass off like a maniac while the Orange Ignoramus defended him and condemned his own country’s intelligence agencies.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/100 "2020-07-02T17:03:09Z")

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I do not pretend to have special powers or insight into Putin’s mind. I just think it’s plain as the nose on his face the amused contempt with which he holds Trump. You can see the sparkle in Putin’s eyes at seeing Trump fawn and toady to him like a puppet clown. I think no-one has so well learned the meaning of what Stalin coined “a useful idiot” than VP.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-calls-with-foreign-leaders-embarrasing-bullying-uninformed-and-disasterous/913730/102 "2020-07-02T19:17:53Z")

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Whenever I see one, I like to move on it like a bitch. And when you’re the captain, they’ll just let you ram that tip into whatever porthole you want. You can do anything…

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