# Trump's campaign chief engages in voter fraud

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 26, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025 "2016-08-26T17:11:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/41 "2016-08-26T22:48:18Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> slash2k, I am not missing that point at all. I haven’t remotely defended falsely claiming residence somewhere as kosher. I was asking a simple question as to whether it could be a simple mistake wrt voter registration.

I’m about as confused as everyone else. How could it be a “simple mistake”? The voter registration people somehow registered him, even though he does not reside in the state? He got on the voter rolls completely accidentally? I just don’t get how on earth this could be a “simple mistake”. Walk me through it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/42 "2016-08-26T22:51:09Z")

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I asked a question above about whether a tick box or another full voter registration form was required while registering to vote when getting a driver’s license. What exactly do you expect me to “walk you through”?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/43 "2016-08-26T22:58:20Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I asked a question above about whether a tick box or another full voter registration form was required while registering to vote when getting a driver’s license. What exactly do you expect me to “walk you through”?

OK, here’s the confusing part then:

Even IF a simple tick box was all that was required to register to vote in the state of Florida…

By getting a Florida driver’s license with a FALSE ADDRESS where he was not living, Bannon would then be JUST AS GUILTY of voter fraud as if he’d filled in a voter registration form with that same address.

One cannot absolve him of the blame, and call it a “simple mistake” if he got a FAKE ADDRESS Florida driver’s license.

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**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/44 "2016-08-26T22:58:37Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I asked a question above about whether a tick box or another full voter registration form was required while registering to vote when getting a driver’s license. What exactly do you expect me to “walk you through”?

How it can be “a simple mistake” to accidentally tick a check box on a form on which he was already perjuring himself.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/45 "2016-08-26T23:05:55Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> About the tax thing, I don’t understand. Does it matter where a person _lives_ or where the money is _earned_. (snip)

Earned income yes, taxes are due where the money is earned. Unearned income, like dividends and interest are subject to the tax in the state the person resides.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/46 "2016-08-26T23:07:01Z")

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Because maybe he only meant to perjure himself to get a drivers license or meet some child visitation requirement and it was an accident to register to vote.

It is pretty annoying whenever I question a small portion of some new gotchya everyone here is blissing out on you all assume I am some evil Trump supporter.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/47 "2016-08-26T23:17:35Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Because maybe he only meant to perjure himself to get a drivers license or meet some child visitation requirement and it was an accident to register to vote.
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> It is pretty annoying whenever I question a small portion of some new gotchya everyone here is blissing out on you all assume I am some evil Trump supporter.

Perhaps if it continues to happen-- over and over and over and over-- it’s not us.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/48 "2016-08-26T23:21:11Z")

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Florida Voter Registration is a [separate form.](http://dos.myflorida.com/elections/for-voters/voter-registration/register-to-vote-or-update-your-information/)

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/49 "2016-08-26T23:24:24Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Perhaps if it continues to happen-- over and over and over and over-- it’s not us.

But you know what? Maybe it is. When I’ve been derided as a Trump supporter, a Sanders supporter and a Clinton fanboy my self reflection has astoundingly not concluded “maybe they’re all right”. The most reasonable conclusion is that a large group of you are pots and pans banging partisans who attack any deviation.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/50 "2016-08-26T23:27:03Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> But you know what? Maybe it is. When I’ve been derided as a Trump supporter, a Sanders supporter and a Clinton fanboy my self reflection has astoundingly not concluded “maybe they’re all right”.

Through your tone and content in these threads, you come across as: a) a Trump apologist, b) always angling for a fight or c) both a & b. That’s all we have to go on, are the words you’re putting on the screen, and if you think everyone has you all wrong, perhaps it’s not us, it’s you.

ETA: I’ve never noticed you before these Trump threads, so I can’t speak to what people think of you outside of these.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/51 "2016-08-26T23:39:37Z")

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No, it’s you. I have said many times that I prefer a Clinton win and have never been an apologist for Trump. This thread is a perfect example. Simply asking about voter registration at the DMV is ragged on as apologizing for Trump.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/52 "2016-08-26T23:43:36Z")

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I’m sorry you feel so disrespected and misunderstood by so many people.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/53 "2016-08-26T23:45:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It _is_ time for the bi-weekly shake up of the Trump campaign.

> [@asahi](#):
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> Check out the story on Bannon’s voter fraud, and we’ll give you an extra story on Bannon’s history of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE absolutely free:
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> [Trump Campaign CEO Stephen K. Bannon Was Charged With Domestic Violence In 1996 : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/08/26/491440310/reports-new-trump-campaign-ceo-faced-domestic-violence-charge-in-1996)
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> It’s turning out to be quite the day at Camp Trump.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Bannon may have just about as much baggage as the previous Trump people who went under the bus…

I’m thinking another word Trump apparently doesn’t know the meaning of is “vetting.” Sweet, delicious irony.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/54 "2016-08-26T23:46:04Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m sorry you feel so disrespected and misunderstood by so many people.

Thanks but the respect of an unthinking pots and pans banging partisan isn’t very important to me.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/55 "2016-08-26T23:49:07Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> …you are pots and pans banging partisans who attack any deviation.

Well, I know which one I’m picking.

Have you a comparison to offer? Some message board, perhaps, where you are assured of warm and cordial welcome? Like to check that out, if only to satisfy the itching of curiosity neurons.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/56 "2016-08-26T23:50:03Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Thanks but the respect of an unthinking pots and pans partisan isn’t very important to me.

Great! I assume that’s supposed to be an insult?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/57 "2016-08-26T23:50:16Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Thanks but the respect of an unthinking pots and pans banging partisan isn’t very important to me.

Ooh. Snap.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/58 "2016-08-26T23:53:53Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Great! I assume that’s supposed to be an insult?

Merely my assessment of your assessment.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/59 "2016-08-26T23:56:57Z")

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That’s enough, both of you.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-chief-engages-in-voter-fraud/764025/60 "2016-08-27T00:01:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> To later prove residency and file taxes in Florida, where you pay no state income tax.
> 
> Still fraud, though.

Yeah. For one vote?? Doubtful. But to avoid state income tax? That’s a problem. A big problem, at least to me.

We should just ask for his tax returns. Oh, right…

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