# Trump's campaign just doesn't get it. (Roger Ailes) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 16, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023 "2016-08-16T23:02:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sputnikkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Sputnikkk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sputnikkk)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/21 "2016-08-17T11:57:58Z")
I think people have made up their minds by now. The women who are voting for Trump are not reading or watching any news source that might say anything negative about Trump so they will not know. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/22 "2016-08-17T12:02:54Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Frankly, I wonder what Ivanka thinks. Is she back from vacay yet? She seems to have a better grip on the issue of sexual harassment than her male relatives do. Maybe this is why she’s on a different continent. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/23 "2016-08-17T12:58:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Maybe this is why she’s on a different continent. Well, we will have to wait and ask her when she is incontinent. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/24 "2016-08-17T13:06:31Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I don’t see why this isn’t a smart move by Trump. Assuming he listens to Ailes (not a solid assumption), who else has Ailes’ high-level debate-prep experience, depth of resources and media savvy? Ailes is absolutely perfect at convincing the 20% of white, male American Foxnews watchers, who he believes are the majority of Americans, who were already going to vote for Trump to vote for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/25 "2016-08-17T13:15:17Z")
And the hits just keep on comin’. Here’s the latest in stax of wax from Donald’s trax: [http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_CAMPAIGN\_2016?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-17-08-37-29](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-17-08-37-29) > [@](#): > > The billionaire real estate mogul named Stephen Bannon of the conservative Breitbart News website as chief executive officer and promoted pollster Kellyanne Conway to campaign manager. Paul Manafort, Trump’s controversial campaign chairman, will retain his title, but it is unclear if his role will change. Trump is charred toast. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/26 "2016-08-17T13:15:18Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > Well, we will have to wait and ask her when she is incontinent. Blindfold? Cigarette? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/27 "2016-08-17T13:29:42Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I don’t see why this isn’t a smart move by Trump. Assuming he listens to Ailes (not a solid assumption), who else has Ailes’ high-level debate-prep experience, depth of resources and media savvy? Plus he is the one person in the world Trump is likely to take advice from. > [@Voyager](#): > > I doubt he needs the money, and he is pretty old. > … I read yesterday that FOX gave him a $40 million golden parachute. I agree that nothing will dissuade the hard core Trump supporters, not even if Trump hired Hitler to coach him on his oratorical skills. Because, as someone said, they are **for** Trump, but more than that, they are **against** Clinton, Obama, and government as it currently exists. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/28 "2016-08-17T14:25:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Plus he is the one person in the world Trump is likely to take advice from. > I read yesterday that FOX gave him a $40 million golden parachute. > I agree that nothing will dissuade the hard core Trump supporters, not even if Trump hired Hitler to coach him on his oratorical skills. Because, as someone said, they are **for** Trump, but more than that, they are **against** Clinton, Obama, and government as it currently exists. The hard core Trump supporters are lost. They are still clinging to their guns, locking their door, and trying to find good places to hide them when Hillary comes calling for their guns. This issue isn’t dead, even if Ailes’ name is never mentioned again. It will be spoken when the opportunity arises. Hopefully Hillary will drop this and other little barbs at the debate, in passing, of course. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/29 "2016-08-17T15:35:26Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Blindfold? Cigarette? I see no need for such formalities. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/30 "2016-08-17T15:56:05Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Perhaps Trump will have a few young women sent up to the suite for them to objectify a little. Binders. Send up some binders. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/31 "2016-08-17T16:54:06Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Binders. Send up some binders. Um…are you talking 3-ring or plastic handcuffs? Regarding Trump supporters and sexual harassment: my wild-ass guess is that his hard core supporters figure that if a woman is sexually harassed, she probably “asked for it,” and that modest, Christian women don’t get harassed. Anyway, women should be at home where their husbands can always find them, not in places of business tempting hard-working, serious, male breadwinners with their womanly wiles. Single and divorced women who “have to” work–well, they’re fair game, right? Asking myself; am I going overboard with this? Also, I heard in passing on NPR this morning that one of Roger’s missions will be to get Trump to READ what’s on the teleprompter and refrain from making the off-the-cuff remarks that get him in trouble. Good luck with that. Maybe a remote-controlled low-voltage device attached to Trump’s testicles that Roger can press whenever Trump veers away from the script? Hmmm…that might even get me to watch a Trump event. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/32 "2016-08-17T16:57:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Um…are you talking 3-ring or plastic handcuffs? [“Binders full of women” was a phrase used by Mitt Romney during the second U.S. presidential debate of 2012.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binders_full_of_women) I love explaining my jokes.😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/33 "2016-08-17T16:58:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > [“Binders full of women” was a phrase used by Mitt Romney during the second U.S. presidential debate of 2012.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binders_full_of_women) > > I love explaining my jokes.😃 Oooooh. I 'member now. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/34 "2016-08-17T17:06:06Z")
I think Trump, Bannin and Ailes are using what’s left of Trump’s campaign to pre-position to establish a new media endeavor targeting the old white male racists who make up his supporters. I think he’s about to dial the crazy way up and then after the election take his supporters with him to his new programming. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/35 "2016-08-17T17:19:52Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I think Trump, Bannin and Ailes are using what’s left of Trump’s campaign to pre-position to establish a new media endeavor targeting the old white male racists who make up his supporters. I think he’s about to dial the crazy way up and then after the election take his supporters with him to his new programming. That is precisely what Ben Shapiro, former editor at large with Breitbert, just speculated on CNN. His thinking was that Bannon would only make a move like this if it was win-win. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/36 "2016-08-17T17:28:54Z")
If it bleeds it will lead. Yep, a train wreck will get lots of eyeballs. And the tell all book of the “backstabbing” will become a best seller. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/37 "2016-08-17T17:32:19Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That is precisely what Ben Shapiro, former editor at large with Breitbert, just speculated on CNN. His thinking was that Bannon would only make a move like this if it was win-win. It was also in the Post. Remember when we could not imagine anything worse than all Qaeda and then ISIS came along? Whatever Trump and Ailes create will be ISIS to Fox’s al Qaeda. I’d bet Sean Hannity and Palin will have shows and lots of cross-over with Trump products. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/38 "2016-08-17T18:53:12Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Maybe a remote-controlled low-voltage device attached to Trump’s testicles that Roger can press whenever Trump veers away from the script? Hmmm…that might even get me to watch a Trump event. I love it! That would be so easy to hack. ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/39 "2016-08-17T19:32:46Z")
I’d say that Huffpost is currently winning the internet with [their headline choice](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) for their article on this morning’s shakeup. In case they change it before you have a chance to click on the link: “SUICIDE SQUAD” in bold red letters. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023/40 "2016-08-17T19:48:44Z")
Wow. At that same Huff Post link is this: [Donald Trump: The New York Times Is Biased Because ‘It’s Owned By Mexico’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-new-york-times-mexico_us_57b371abe4b0edfa80d9e243?) It’s not news, but still… > [@](#): > > “I know why I get bad treatment in The New York Times. It’s because it’s owned by Mexico,” Trump told the crowd on Feb. 23. “I don’t know if you know, a rich guy in Mexico actually has power at The New York Times.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-campaign-just-doesnt-get-it-roger-ailes/763023.md?page=3)