# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/1 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")
[President Trump’s Immigration Order, Annotated](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/politics/annotating-trump-immigration-refugee-order.html) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/2 "2017-01-29T01:48:27Z")
Hope I’m wrong in speculating this will last more than just 120 days. Hm gee I wonder if this might foment maybe a little, oh, resent, possibly, among those being turned away? Sowing resent - not a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/3 "2017-01-29T01:50:41Z")
Perhaps some other countries could protest and retaliate by banning Americans traveling to their countries for a period of time. Germany, France, England, Brazil? I wonder what could happen… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/4 "2017-01-29T01:57:14Z")
Early details are sketchy but MSNBC is reporting that a Federal Judge has granted a “block” regarding Trump’s Executive Order. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/5 "2017-01-29T02:10:31Z")
Most of today I was moping, crying, donating to immigrant legal support services, angry, frustrated, going nuts on Facebook, talking with friends and colleagues, listening to radio editorials and reading reports from JFK Airport, getting testy with my loved ones (just from the stress)… I just can’t believe that fucker T— is actually raping the poor Statue of Liberty with such vicious, ignorant, harmful actions. This is unforgivable. Horrendously stupid in every way I can think of (even the pro-business ones T— laughably thinks he’s so good at, let alone how this THREATENS security). This hits me in ways I’m having trouble processing – personal anguish blends with embarrassment for my country. I’ve been rather catatonic since November 9, but this jolted me back into the game. (Not to be too self-grandiose, but I’m reminded of King George when, in the film _The Madness of…_, he snapped out of his dementia and jumped into action.) ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/6 "2017-01-29T02:12:55Z")
I like when a candidate keeps his promises once elected. Trump is acting very much the asshole he promised he would. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/7 "2017-01-29T02:17:47Z")
Interesting that the [countries listed](http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512199324/countries-listed-on-trumps-refugee-ban-dont-include-those-he-has-business-with) are not the countries that have the worst record of sending terrorists. He carefully avoided those countries because he does personal business with them. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/8 "2017-01-29T02:19:27Z")
You know, it is strange to say, but I’m getting proud of my **Republican** Senator from Arizona: [http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/316713-republicans-sound-off-against-refugee-executive-order](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/316713-republicans-sound-off-against-refugee-executive-order) > [@](#): > > GOP lawmakers are stepping out against President Trump’s executive order barring many refugees and citizens of certain predominantly Muslim countries from entering the U.S. > > Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) called the order “unacceptable” amid concerns that it would prevent legal permanent residents from entering the U.S., which the administration attempted to clarify on Saturday. > > “President Trump and his administration are right to be concerned about national security, but it’s unacceptable when even legal permanent residents are being detained or turned away at airports and ports of entry,” Flake said in a statement. > > “Enhancing long term national security requires that we have a clear-eyed view of radical Islamic terrorism without ascribing radical Islamic terrorist views to all Muslims,” Flake added. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/9 "2017-01-29T02:21:32Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > I like when a candidate keeps his promises once elected. Trump is acting very much the asshole he promised he would. True. This is exactly why I have now gone from “generously trying to understand where T— voters are ‘coming from’” to “despising every single fucker who voted for T—.” Every single one. They KNEW what was coming. I can only conclude that they LIKE this shit. I hate that I feel this way. I’m taking about friendly neighbors, maybe even a few true friends! But it is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/10 "2017-01-29T02:21:45Z")
Trump’s order is in keeping with his loathsome, ignorant character. But, I ask you, is there not one pair of gonads in all of Congress?? [Paul Ryan](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-plans-to-sign-executive-action-on-refugees-extreme-vetting/): > [@](#): > > “Our number one responsibility is to protect the homeland. We are a compassionate nation, and I support the refugee resettlement program, but it’s time to re-evaluate and strengthen the visa-vetting process,” Ryan said in a statement, adding, “President Trump is right to make sure we are doing everything possible to know exactly who is entering our country.” Gutless, M-F, coward. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/11 "2017-01-29T02:22:11Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Early details are sketchy but MSNBC is reporting that a Federal Judge has granted a “block” regarding Trump’s Executive Order. The ACLU confirms it: [http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316714-federal-judge-blocks-trump-immigration-ban-nationwide](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316714-federal-judge-blocks-trump-immigration-ban-nationwide) > [@](#): > > The federal court for the Eastern District of New York has issued an emergency stay halting President Trump’s executive order banning immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S, The Verge reported Saturday night. > > The court ruled on a habeas corpus petition filed by the ACLU on behalf of two Iraqi men who were detained at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Friday after Trump’s ban. > > Since then both men, Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshaw, have reportedly been granted entry to the U.S. > > Dale Ho, director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, tweeted: > > > [@](#): > > > > We won. > > > > Stay [order] is National. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/12 "2017-01-29T02:32:10Z")
Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/13 "2017-01-29T02:33:10Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > Perhaps some other countries could protest and retaliate by banning Americans traveling to their countries for a period of time. Germany, France, England, Brazil? > > I wonder what could happen… If they want to ban people who voted for Trump, that would be better. I’m not sure how they’d figure that out though, but blaming all of us for this disaster sucks (I don’t want to have to suffer under Groppenfuhrer’s incompetence anymore than the other 74 million people who didn’t vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/14 "2017-01-29T02:34:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump’s order is in keeping with his loathsome, ignorant character. But, I ask you, is there not one pair of gonads in all of Congress?? > > [Paul Ryan](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-plans-to-sign-executive-action-on-refugees-extreme-vetting/): > Gutless, M-F, coward. All Paul Ryan cares about is libertarianism. He wants to abolish the social safety net and government power in endless areas (food safety, EPA, infrastructure, etc) and use the money to give tax cuts to the rich. He has no morals or backbone other than that, and he will support almost anything if he thinks it will help his libertarian fantasy come to life. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/15 "2017-01-29T02:37:08Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? The specific examples pointed out in the cites show a very good reason why. And those refugees did and are likely to help the USA against ISIS. Not my problem that you only show to everyone what a moron you are for not reading. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/16 "2017-01-29T02:37:56Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? Kind of a strawman, since the US never did allow anyone and everyone to immigrate to the US. However, there is the whole ‘Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore…’ thingy. It’s been what made American freaking America for centuries now. Trump is a fuck-wit. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/17 "2017-01-29T02:39:00Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Trump’s order is in keeping with his loathsome, ignorant character. But, I ask you, is there not one pair of gonads in all of Congress?? > > [Paul Ryan](http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-plans-to-sign-executive-action-on-refugees-extreme-vetting/): > Gutless, M-F, coward. [Someone edited the Wikipedia page on Invertebrates to include Paul Ryan.](http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/wikipedia-invertebrate-page-edited-to-include-paul-ryan.html?mid=twitter-share-selectall%20via%20@selectall) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/18 "2017-01-29T02:39:10Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? Because they already had permission to immigrate here. One of them had spent 10 years doing translation services for the U.S. military. The other (and family) have been undergoing the clearance procedures for the last two years and had been cleared and issued entry visas. And despite Cheeto’s lies, refugees wait an average of 18-24 months to be cleared for entry. Surprise, not one of them have committed terrorist acts. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/19 "2017-01-29T02:40:09Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? A lot of these people were already legal residents, you fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/20 "2017-01-29T02:41:36Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? This has nothing to do with the idiotic, inhumane, and unAmerican executive order. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=2)