# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/181 "2017-01-29T20:14:43Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > It’s only been ten days and The Orange Moron has already managed to sink the country into a… > > [**Fuckin’ Chaos**](http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html) > > No doubt his acolytes & sycophants must be proud. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like chaos if you’re one of his supporters in places like Wyoming or Nebraska. Those people could not care less, and they like it just fine. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/182 "2017-01-29T20:21:28Z")
Plus which, Fuckin’ Chaos is one more step along the road to the CRISIS so eloquently described by **EP** above. Which is devoutly to be wished by … somebody … because it would provide the rationale for Il Douche to Take Control\* and Get Things Done. \*Temporarily, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/183 "2017-01-29T20:28:34Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Canadian officials are getting conflicting opinions about what this might mean for dual citizens of Canada and listed countries… Because nobody in the US government knows what the fuck is going on. Trump could hardly be upset if Canada built a wall until they could find out what the hell is going on. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/184 "2017-01-29T20:32:52Z")
I note that the judge who defied Dear Leader’s order is a petulant female, probably menstruating. Did she become a judge because she couldn’t find any men who wanted to grab her pussy? Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/185 "2017-01-29T20:34:35Z")
Well, with blood coming out of her wherever, who can blame him? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/186 "2017-01-29T20:39:06Z")
Apologies if it’s been mentioned here already and I missed it, but I see that Angela Merkel has lectured Trump that as a signatory to the Geneva Convention, the US is obligated to take a certain number of refugees from war-torn countries. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/187 "2017-01-29T20:41:30Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > And please, let’s not compare Trump to Hitler. We should compare him to Chester Arthur, who signed the Chinese Exclusion Act. Can we compare him to Chester Cheetah? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/188 "2017-01-29T21:04:05Z")
Way back in a university class in the early 2000s, I learned that laws could be discriminatory in two ways: explicitly, such as Trump’s campaign promise to ban Muslims; and disparate impact, such as this asinine executive order. Those who are celebrating the order are not celebrating its effect in keeping out terrorists. Take a wild guess what they’re celebrating about it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/189 "2017-01-29T21:07:07Z")
That it advances the cause of peace and understanding between peoples? No? Then fuck 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/190 "2017-01-29T21:20:47Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. And they’re saying two Republican congressional leaders are now coming out strongly against it. Looks like even ol’ Rancid is confused. After saying green-card holders were outside the scope of the Executive Ordure, he’s now come back and said unless you’re a green-card holder from those seven countries. Sheesh! I’m hearing on the news now that Rancid is being empowered to take Trump’s place during meetings of the National Security Council. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/191 "2017-01-29T21:26:20Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. And they’re saying two Republican congressional leaders are now coming out strongly against it. The second sentence refers to them coming out against the Executive Ordure, not coming out against allowing in green-card holders. My bad. (But again, Rancid is now saying holders from those seven countries can’t come in after all.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/192 "2017-01-29T22:19:17Z")
[And here is how well Trump’s order is prioritizing Christian refugees](http://www.vox.com/2017/1/29/14429844/trump-christians-refugee-ban?yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/193 "2017-01-29T23:24:15Z")
From the Daily Kos. Had to post it because this writer says what I think better. > **[Trump interrupts viewing of 'Finding Dory' to issue lies about his Muslim ban](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/29/1627065/-Trump-interrupts-viewing-of-Finding-Dory-to-issue-lies-about-his-Muslim-ban)** > > Popular vote loser Donald Trump emerged from his bunker to issue a statement on the growing furor created by his unconstitutional Muslim ban. > > In the statement, Trump lied—pause to count—at least eight times and attacked the media twice. The lies... > [@](#): > > Popular vote loser Donald Trump emerged from his bunker to issue a statement on the growing furor created by his unconstitutional Muslim ban. > > In the statement, Trump lied—pause to count—at least eight times and attacked the media twice. The lies and attacks are, in order: his White House “will continue to show compassion,” that they will keep America “free,” that the media “refuses to say” that, that his policy is like “what President Obama did,” that “this is not a Muslim ban,” as the media is “falsely reporting,” that “this is not about religion,” he has “tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis,” his “first priority will always be to protect and serve,” and finally, he will “find ways to help all those who are suffering.” > > And a response to all that, in order: **Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.** ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/194 "2017-01-29T23:39:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > From the Daily Kos. Had to post it because this writer says what I think better. > > [Trump interrupts viewing of 'Finding Dory' to issue lies about his Muslim ban](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/29/1627065/-Trump-interrupts-viewing-of-) > Finding-Dory-to-issue-lies-about-his-Muslim-ban > [@](#): > > **The thin orange skin may be approaching the breaking point.** Let’s hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/195 "2017-01-30T01:15:36Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I note that the judge who defied Dear Leader’s order is a petulant female, probably menstruating. Did she become a judge because she couldn’t find any men who wanted to grab her pussy? Sad. And probably way too fat for beauty pageants. Hopefully someone might speculate (within Cheeto’s earshot) that the judge might be part Muslim, launching a full investigation on her to get her deported ASAP. > [@Superdude](#): > > Trump could hardly be upset if Canada built a wall until they could find out what the hell is going on. That idea’s sounding increasingly palatable to this Canadian. Just to be thorough, though, it would also have to run right down the middle of Juan de Fuca Straight, between the Olympic Peninsula and Vancouver Island, which would be YUGE expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/196 "2017-01-30T01:33:51Z")
In her nomination to the federal circuit, President Obama said she would “serve the American people with integrity and an unwavering commitment to justice.” Right on. She, and 328 of her colleagues he also nominated have what can be considered among the most secure jobs of any in the USA. They are not going anywhere. Mark one down for checks and balances. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/197 "2017-01-30T01:36:14Z")
Heh, the National Review claimed that the critics of Trump are being hysterical, seems that the piece was written early before knowing all the facts because in the middle of the whitewash they added a bit that sticks like a sore thumb breaking the narrative. They reported that “however” ‘preventing the ones with green cards to come\*\* is madness\*\* and it should be condemned’. So much for accusing others of hysterical protests when it is really serious even for conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/198 "2017-01-30T02:21:00Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. I saw Priebus live on CNN and I was just as confused as Chuck Todd was about what ol’ Priebus was actually saying … He kept using this phrase “going forward…” The New York Times has (I think reasonably, but who knows?) interpreted this to mean that they are now changing the original policy to allow in the green-card holders: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/politics/white-house-official-in-reversal-says-green-card-holders-wont-be-barred.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/politics/white-house-official-in-reversal-says-green-card-holders-wont-be-barred.html) What makes the whole thing so confusing is that it seems that Priebus was using “going forward…” as a euphemism for the fact that they were changing the policy but without explicitly wanting to admit that they were changing it. (It all reminds me of the sort of corporate-doublespeak by fuck-wad managers: We once wasted more than 1/2 an hour in a division meeting at Kodak because our idiotic division director refused to admit that the plan to “improve productivity” by 10% per year in the research labs over the next few years was really just a euphemism for saying that they were going to cut the budget by 10% per year.) ---
**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/199 "2017-01-30T02:23:14Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.” Sound familiar? Bob ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/200 "2017-01-30T02:25:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He lost by three million votes. He doesn’t have a mandate to do _anything_. But the Trumpers think they are “illegal.” Some of them were Hispanic and Jewish and stuff… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=11)