# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/241 "2017-01-30T17:05:42Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Of course, the opponents will overreact …it’s a wrong decision…it’s not a disastrous decision…I have said before, many of Trump opponents come across as repulsive due to their ego, anger etc. They make neutral people support Trump. He will win in 2020 as well if these repulsive opponents don’t improve. > > How about people start by firstly condemning Islam, the root of all conflict? Go away, you fucking idiot troll. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/242 "2017-01-30T17:06:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > From a recent Scott Adams’ post: > > "The setup is that during the presidential campaign Trump’s critics accused him of being Hitler(ish) and they were sure other citizens would see it too, thus preventing this alleged monster from taking office. > > They were wrong. The alleged monster took office. > > Now you have literally millions of citizens in the United States who were either right about Trump being the next Hitler, and we will see that behavior emerge from him soon, or they are complete morons. That’s a trigger for cognitive dissonance. The science says these frightened folks will start interpreting all they see as Hitler behavior no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the objective observer. And sure enough, we are seeing that. > … > But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one." Great post. Though I don’t know who Scott Adams is. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/243 "2017-01-30T17:08:51Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Great post. Though I don’t know who Scott Adams is. The creator of Dilbert. [http://blog.dilbert.com/](http://blog.dilbert.com/) ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/244 "2017-01-30T17:10:51Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Go away, you fucking idiot troll. Yawn. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/245 "2017-01-30T17:16:56Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Of course, the opponents will overreact …it’s a wrong decision…it’s not a disastrous decision…I have said before, many of Trump opponents come across as repulsive due to their ego, anger etc. They make neutral people support Trump. He will win in 2020 as well if these repulsive opponents don’t improve. > > How about people start by firstly condemning Islam, the root of all conflict? LOL! The root of all conflict! After all, the world was such a peaceful place before Islam came along to ruin it all… Hilarious! Give us another one! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/246 "2017-01-30T17:19:39Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > "It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. " If he’s trying, he’s failing. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/247 "2017-01-30T17:22:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one." Why are so many Trump supporters obsessed with making liberals take hits to their ego and less with the actions, behavior, and competency of their elected leader. This obsession with liberals is not healthy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/248 "2017-01-30T17:25:30Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Of course, the opponents will overreact …it’s a wrong decision…it’s not a disastrous decision…I have said before, many of Trump opponents come across as repulsive due to their ego, anger etc. They make neutral people support Trump. He will win in 2020 as well if these repulsive opponents don’t improve. > > How about people start by firstly condemning Islam, the root of all conflict? :rolleyes: Lenin is the model of the Henchmen of Trump here you red herring tosser. And they told you that, and in the open. The real repulsive thing is to \*\*willfully \*\*ignore what honest and good people (that happens to originally come from the middle east) are suffering right now. > **[After Trump's immigration ban, people flood social media with tales of...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/01/28/after-trumps-immigration-ban-people-flood-social-media-tales-stranded-family/97184088/)** > > People are sharing stories of family and friends stranded all over the world as a result of President Trump's temporary ban on immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/249 "2017-01-30T17:27:55Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Yawn. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/250 "2017-01-30T17:34:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Trump’s statement says, “The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror.” Is it so? > > Answer: [only kinda sorta, at best.](http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/president-trumps-immigration-order-muslim-ban) Team Trump had to look past a bunch of lists from the Obama years that made more sense before digging up one that they were happy with. The real truth is, the countries were selected based on his own business interests. No county that he has (or wants) a business connection with, is on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/251 "2017-01-30T17:34:40Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > The decision might be unreasonable but it’s wrong for people to compare with Hitler. If the mustache fits… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/252 "2017-01-30T17:35:55Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Go away, you fucking idiot troll. This. The old “we deliberately chose the worst bastard on the planet because we were on our our period”. Or some bullshit like that. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/253 "2017-01-30T17:36:00Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The real truth is, the countries were selected based on his own business interests. No county that he has (or wants) a business connection with, is on the list. The countries were selected based on a 2016 law that had a list of “countries of concern” that was signed by Obama. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/254 "2017-01-30T17:39:16Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > From a recent Scott Adams’ post: > > "The setup is that during the presidential campaign Trump’s critics accused him of being Hitler(ish) and they were sure other citizens would see it too, thus preventing this alleged monster from taking office. > > They were wrong. The alleged monster took office. > > Now you have literally millions of citizens in the United States who were either right about Trump being the next Hitler, and we will see that behavior emerge from him soon, or they are complete morons. That’s a trigger for cognitive dissonance. The science says these frightened folks will start interpreting all they see as Hitler behavior no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the objective observer. And sure enough, we are seeing that. > … > But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one." That is Scott Adams just projecting. I dismiss more what Adams says (not to mention that he is a cartoonist and not even involved on the issues and he is a [dope](http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/07/31/stop-teabagging-science-scott-adams/)). More so when a super conservative Republican donor like Charles Koch does think now what Trump is: > **[Billionaire Republican donors liken Trump’s Muslim ban to Hitler’s policies](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-billionaire-republican-donor-charles-koch-likens-policy-to-adolf-hitler-nazi-germany-a7552531.html)** > > Influential industrialist says travel restrictions 'wrong approach' for 'free and open societies' > [@](#): > > Billionaire Republican donor Charles Koch likens Donald Trump’s Muslim ban to Adolf Hitler’s policies in Nazi Germany ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/255 "2017-01-30T17:40:00Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > **Mrs. Siam Sam** is back in Thailand until early March. She’s a green-card holder, and I’m worried about what could happen. Sure, she is not a Muslim and does not have a Muslim name. Thailand’s not on the list and is not a Muslim country anyway. But there is a Muslim population there, and for the past 13 years they’ve been waging an insurrection in the country’s far South, down the Malay Peninsula. So who knows what that orange-haired fuck will do next. Here’s hoping things work out, but I advise you to set up some sort of plan, just in case. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/256 "2017-01-30T17:41:08Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That is Scott Adams just projecting. > > I dismiss more what Adams says (not to mention that he is a cartoonist and not even involved on the issues and he is a [dope](http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/07/31/stop-teabagging-science-scott-adams/)). More so when a super conservative Republican donor like Charles Koch does think now what Trump is: > > [Billionaire Republican donor Charles Koch likens Donald Trump's Muslim ban to Adolf Hitler's policies in Nazi Germany | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-billionaire-republican-donor-charles-koch-likens-policy-to-adolf-a7552531.html) I almost never agree with the Kochs … but that guy is right this time. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/257 "2017-01-30T17:41:35Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > The countries were selected based on a 2016 law that had a list of “countries of concern” that was signed by Obama. This is a ridiculous justification. The two lists are not the same. I’m less than convinced by the statements from the people who have lied over and over again since inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/258 "2017-01-30T17:44:07Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > The countries were selected based on a 2016 law that had a list of “countries of concern” that was signed by Obama. There were several lists over the years for various reasons-he just happened to dig through them until he found one that didn’t include the countries he thought he could do business with. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/259 "2017-01-30T17:47:10Z")
Trump asked people to find a way for him to ban Muslims “legally”. He needed a fig-leaf. So that the morons would be able to disguise their immorality. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/260 "2017-01-30T17:48:46Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > This. The old “we deliberately chose the worst bastard on the planet because we were on our our period”. Or some bullshit like that. **truthseeker2** is one of most repulsive anti-Muslim bigots on the board. His responses are completely predictable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=14)