# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/301 "2017-01-30T19:58:17Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > When it is one bet, yes. When it is a long series of bets, over and over, for the period of more than a year, and the “smart bets” keep losing, maybe they are not so smart. There was only one outcome, idiot, so there was only one bet. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/302 "2017-01-30T19:59:41Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > When it is one bet, yes. When it is a long series of bets, over and over, for the period of more than a year, and the “smart bets” keep losing, maybe they are not so smart. Over the majority of the election Clinton was outperforming Trump in the polls. And in fact she won the popular vote. Given that all available evidence supported Clinton, saying that Trump will win (in the absence of secret information, which I guarantee you Adams didn’t have) is the stupid bet. I know you don’t understand this. That’s OK. As Wyatt Earp kinda said, “Maybe thinking’s just not your game **Okrahoma**. I know! Let’s have a spelling contest!” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/303 "2017-01-30T20:05:44Z")
[Here are The Twitter Rules](https://support.twitter.com/articles/18311). In the Twitter Rules there is a section entitled, “ **Abusive Behavior** ”. Question. Could Trump’s Twitter account be suspended by Twitter for violation of **Abusive Behavior**? I’m thinking about the bulleted items of **Harassment** , **Hateful Conduct** and **Impersonation**. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/304 "2017-01-30T20:07:11Z")
Why would they? Trump is probably the best advertising they could get for free! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/305 "2017-01-30T20:10:46Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why would they? Trump is probably the best advertising they could get for free! Understood **John Mace** , but that is not what I am asking. I’m thinking in terms of Twitter deciding, for whatever reason, to wash their hands of Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/306 "2017-01-30T20:10:55Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > There was only one outcome, idiot, so there was only one bet. There were lots of bets. Every time “experts” predicted that THIS time Trump’s statement will doom him, and Adams laughed at that, that was a bet. Primaries, state by state. With “experts” predicting Trump’s doom at every turn. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/307 "2017-01-30T20:20:27Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Understood **John Mace** , but that is not what I am asking. I’m thinking in terms of Twitter deciding, for whatever reason, to wash their hands of Trump. Sure, they could ban his account. Hell, they could ban anyone’s account if they really wanted too…their terms of use are broad enough and set up specifically so they can do that without legal repercussions. They simply wouldn’t do it…it would not be worth the massive fallout to them. Especially since Trump would and could use other accounts, including the US government’s various Twitter accounts. Granted, they could ban those too but you can see where this is going, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/308 "2017-01-30T20:20:33Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > There were lots of bets. Every time “experts” predicted that THIS time Trump’s statement will doom him, and Adams laughed at that, that was a bet. Primaries, state by state. With “experts” predicting Trump’s doom at every turn. Adams too – he also predicted Trump’s doom, and then changed his mind. He changed his mind multiple times. In the general election, Nate Silver was consistent – he consistently gave Trump a moderate chance of winning. It changed a bit depending on the polling, and ended up about 1 in 3 (which turned out to be pretty reasonable). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/309 "2017-01-30T20:38:18Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > There were lots of bets. Every time “experts” predicted that THIS time Trump’s statement will doom him, and Adams laughed at that, that was a bet. Primaries, state by state. With “experts” predicting Trump’s doom at every turn. No, those were not bets. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/310 "2017-01-30T20:40:17Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > A lot of these people were already legal residents, you fuckwit. Forget it, Colibri. It’s Sept 2016 join date-town. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/311 "2017-01-30T20:43:34Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Adams too – he also predicted Trump’s doom, and then changed his mind. Maybe you can cite a post of his that “predicted Trump’s doom”. He famously (and facetiously)[“supported” Hillary for a while](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states)- “…for my personal safety, because I live in California. It isn’t safe to be a Trump supporter where I live.” But he was consistent predicting Trump’s win throughout. Even in that post where he claimed he endorses Clinton “for my personal safety” he still predicted Trump will win. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/312 "2017-01-30T20:44:37Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Now, hold on a second there, hoss. Just because he doesn’t is not the same as he can’t. I’m entirely capable of drinking Coors “beer”, I don’t because water is already freely available. Exactly. Why buy Coors when it’s so easy to make? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/313 "2017-01-30T20:46:35Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Maybe you can cite a post of his that “predicted Trump’s doom”. > > He famously (and facetiously)[“supported” Hillary for a while](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states)- “…for my personal safety, because I live in California. It isn’t safe to be a Trump supporter where I live.” But he was consistent predicting Trump’s win throughout. Even in that post where he claimed he endorses Clinton “for my personal safety” he still predicted Trump will win. He wasn’t consistently predicting Trump’s win – here’s just [one of the instances](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women) in which he decided that Hillary was going to win. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/314 "2017-01-30T20:47:59Z")
[Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson (D) sues to block Trump immigration ban](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/316905-wa-attorney-general-sues-to-block-trump-immigration-ban). ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/315 "2017-01-30T20:52:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He wasn’t consistently predicting Trump’s win – here’s just [one of the instances](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women) in which he decided that Hillary was going to win. Cool. You found a wrong prediction of his. Vs. literally hundreds by so-called “experts” during the same time period. Adams still wins. And so does Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/316 "2017-01-30T20:54:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He wasn’t consistently predicting Trump’s win – here’s just [one of the instances](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151737656851/the-era-of-women) in which he decided that Hillary was going to win. Much like Trump himself, there wasn’t a single position on the election that Adams didn’t hold at one time or another. By simultaneously holding every possible position on the election, he set himself up to claim victory no matter what the outcome. Of course only a very stupid person would be fooled by that, but again as the Trump election showed, there’s no shortage of stupid people. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/317 "2017-01-30T20:57:10Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Cool. You found a wrong prediction of his. Vs. literally hundreds by so-called “experts” during the same time period. Adams still wins. And so does Trump. Adams “wins” by taking every possible position at some point so that, no matter what happens, he can claim that he was correct. A lot of the “experts” were similarly wrong, but they were a bit more consistent at least. Some of the experts (like Nate Silver in particular) came out looking pretty good, actually. Far from perfect, but still pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/318 "2017-01-30T20:58:03Z")
Never did like okra all that much. Gross, slimy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/319 "2017-01-30T21:00:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Adams “wins” by taking every possible position at some point so that, no matter what happens, he can claim that he was correct. Two days after the post you quoted he switched back to “98% chance of Trump winning”. So Adams was wrong for two days. “Experts” were wrong for a year. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/320 "2017-01-30T21:02:59Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Cool. You found a wrong prediction of his. Vs. literally hundreds by so-called “experts” during the same time period. Adams still wins. And so does Trump. I assume you must believe that a stopped clock is more accurate than one that’s off by three minutes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=17)