# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/621 "2017-02-05T13:02:35Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > The introduction of Madonna into the argument is momentarily confusing me. I read tons of realtime and after event experiences of people who attended the women’s march and read many articles about it. I would never have known Madonna spoke had the Trumpistas not had a total shitfit meltdown over it. Since then they have been desperately trying to make her the voice of the march so they can condemn the whole thing. Because she said some bad words. Smacks of desperation on the Trumpets part. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/622 "2017-02-05T14:25:23Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > Can’t believe the overaction and hysterics. Before having nervous breakdowns over what you believe or fear MIGHT happen down the road, let the awful thing (whatever it is) actually happen before you emotionally react. Responding maturely and intelligently is recommended over temper tantrums and known to be effective. > > The Trump supporters, Trump non-haters at least, whatever, are disgusted with the tantrums, theatrics, hate spewing, business burning, anarchist behavior of the liberals and their Hollywood bomb-dreaming jerkoffs. > > CALM DOWN and act like adults. > > You must be proud having Madonna as your mouthpiece. Gawd. Some self-proclaimed liberals here are the real pitiable closed-minded intolerant ones. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/623 "2017-02-05T14:48:12Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > {…} Before having nervous breakdowns over what you believe or fear MIGHT happen down the road, let the awful thing (whatever it is) actually happen before you emotionally react. {…} Yes, 'cause that’s, historically\*, the clearly best plan of action! \*[Just ask any socialist, trade unionist, or Jew!](https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=niemoller+poem&oq=neimoll&gs_l=hp.1.1.0i10k1l10.1578.8848.0.10465.8.8.0.0.0.0.171.1050.0j8.8.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.7.865.0..0j5j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.ONV5gNSR7As) CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/624 "2017-02-05T15:30:02Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The guts of Trump’s executive order, though, is about determining who is a lawful visitor. Sure, but he still can’t use a religious test for that. That’s right out. And according to Rudy, that was precisely his intent, and the only question was how to camouflage that goal sufficiently to pass legal muster. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/625 "2017-02-05T15:38:02Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > The Trump supporters, Trump non-haters at least, whatever, are disgusted with the tantrums, theatrics, hate spewing, business burning, anarchist behavior of the liberals and their Hollywood bomb-dreaming jerkoffs. But Trump’s tantrums, theatrics, and hate-spewing are A-OK with you. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/626 "2017-02-05T15:40:01Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Some self-proclaimed liberals here are the real pitiable closed-minded intolerant ones. It’s easy to point and call names. Any five-year-old can do it. Got something worthwhile to contribute? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/627 "2017-02-05T15:48:14Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > You need to talk to a counselor. Reacting like this (crying, hating anyone who doesn’t do what you want) isn’t healthy. You are the miserable one. Figure out why that is and has nothing to do with Trump. > [@SueBee12](#): > > Can’t believe the overaction and hysterics. Before having nervous breakdowns over what you believe or fear MIGHT happen down the road, let the awful thing (whatever it is) actually happen before you emotionally react. Responding maturely and intelligently is recommended over temper tantrums and known to be effective. Oh yeah: these posts might be a bit more grounded if you quoted examples from this thread of the behavior you describe. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/628 "2017-02-05T15:49:56Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > It’s easy to point and call names. Any five-year-old can do it. Got something worthwhile to contribute? Forget it Jake, it is Alternative Truths for the “Truth” seeker there. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/629 "2017-02-05T16:13:27Z")
On Saturday the Cheeto in chief claimed that he was confident that he was going to win the appeal against the block by the “So-called judge” Sorry El Trumpo, but the appeal judges do know that he was indeed more than a “So-called” judge. > **[Appeals court knocks back attempt to swiftly reinstate Trump travel ban](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/justice-dept-appeals-have-court-restore-trump-travel-order-n716891)** > > The denial means travelers restricted under the order can continue coming to the United States while the legal battles continue. > [@](#): > > Appeals Court Rejects Bid to Quickly Restore Trump Travel Ban ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/630 "2017-02-05T16:56:20Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Some self-proclaimed liberals here are the real pitiable closed-minded intolerant ones. Go away, you cretinous troll. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/631 "2017-02-05T18:21:03Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > I would never have known Madonna spoke had the Trumpistas not had a total shitfit meltdown over it. > > Since then they have been desperately trying to make her the voice of the march so they can condemn the whole thing. Because she said some bad words. [Her words](http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/news/a42336/madonnas-womens-march-speech-transcript/) weren’t even particularly bad. She admitted to having had unrealistic _thoughts_ about violence based on sadness and anger, but immediately rejected them as wrong and counterproductive: > [@Madonna](#): > > Welcome to the revolution of love. To the rebellion. To our refusal as women to accept this new age of tyranny. Where not just women are in danger but all marginalized people. Where people uniquely different might be considered a crime. It took us this darkness to wake us the fuck up. […] > > Yes, I’m angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House, but I know that this won’t change anything. We cannot fall into despair. As the poet, W.H. Auden once wrote on the eve of World War II: We must love one another or die. > > I choose love. Are you with me? Say this with me: We choose love. We choose love. We choose love ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/632 "2017-02-05T18:27:36Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > Can’t believe the overaction and hysterics. Before having nervous breakdowns over what you believe or fear MIGHT happen down the road, let the awful thing (whatever it is) actually happen before you emotionally react. Responding maturely and intelligently is recommended over temper tantrums and known to be effective. > > The Trump supporters, Trump non-haters at least, whatever, are disgusted with the tantrums, theatrics, hate spewing, business burning, anarchist behavior of the liberals and their Hollywood bomb-dreaming jerkoffs. > > CALM DOWN and act like adults. > > You must be proud having Madonna as your mouthpiece. Gawd. If it lets you sleep at night, let’s just call it payback for all the righty screaming and crying and OMG h’es coming for us during the Obabma years. Taking our guns. Death panels. War on Christmas. Operation jade Helmet. FEMA death camps. etc etc etc etc etc In other words shut up. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/633 "2017-02-05T18:32:16Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Some self-proclaimed liberals here are the real pitiable closed-minded intolerant ones. Oh, another one I forgot to put on Ignore. That error is corrected, as of NOW. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/634 "2017-02-05T19:02:50Z")
> [@SueBee12](#): > > You need to talk to a counselor. Reacting like this (crying, hating anyone who doesn’t do what you want) isn’t healthy. You are the miserable one. Figure out why that is and has nothing to do with Trump. > [@SueBee12](#): > > Can’t believe the overaction and hysterics. Before having nervous breakdowns over what you believe or fear MIGHT happen down the road, let the awful thing (whatever it is) actually happen before you emotionally react. Responding maturely and intelligently is recommended over temper tantrums and known to be effective. > > The Trump supporters, Trump non-haters at least, whatever, are disgusted with the tantrums, theatrics, hate spewing, business burning, anarchist behavior of the liberals and their Hollywood bomb-dreaming jerkoffs. > > CALM DOWN and act like adults. > > You must be proud having Madonna as your mouthpiece. Gawd. Okay, who in the GOP is paying you to post here? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/635 "2017-02-05T20:20:17Z")
The attorney arguing for Trump’s executive order argued before the judge that he was not supposed to base his decision on rationality. > **[Watch The Excruciating Moment Trump’s Argument For Muslim Ban Falls Apart In...](https://reverbpress.com/justice/watch-excruciating-moment-trumps-argument-muslim-ban-falls-apart-court-video/)** > > Judge Repudiates Trump DOJ’s Half-Baked Legal Argument On Saturday, a federal judge in the state of Washington ordered a nationwide The brief clip in the middle of the page is that alarming argument. The entire hearing is in a video down the page. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/636 "2017-02-05T21:33:33Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Go away, you cretinous troll. You have the power to make him go away for good, if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/637 "2017-02-05T21:51:49Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Okay, who in the GOP is paying you to post here? If SueBee just goes away, we can infer that the payments were supposed to come from Herr Orangefuerher himself, who as usual failed to actually pay up. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/638 "2017-02-05T21:52:45Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Okay, who in the GOP is paying you to post here? And more to the point: What was the last name they used when they were banned? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/639 "2017-02-05T22:01:27Z")
In speaking about this court battle, Pence said the following: [http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2017/White-House-Courts-will-reaffirm-Trump-s-executive-power-and-reinstate-a-ban-on-refugees-and-travelers-from-seven-predominantly-Muslim-countries/id-5e8a6f35a37c45fb9d64cd41d934e0b3](http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2017/White-House-Courts-will-reaffirm-Trump-s-executive-power-and-reinstate-a-ban-on-refugees-and-travelers-from-seven-predominantly-Muslim-countries/id-5e8a6f35a37c45fb9d64cd41d934e0b3) > [@](#): > > Vice President Mike Pence defended Trump, saying “the president can criticize anybody he wants.” Pence added that he believes the American people “find it very refreshing that they not only understand this president’s mind, but they understand how he feels about things.” Maybe there’s somehow a more charitable interpretation of this, but to me it sounds like he’s saying that Trump’s mind is simple enough that even the American people can understand it; an idea that denigrates the intelligence of both Trump and the American people. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/640 "2017-02-05T22:49:43Z")
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