# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/721 "2017-02-09T02:32:00Z")
I think **truthSeeker2** needs a [hug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbbEQkraYg) So this is [you](https://i.imgsafe.org/2a7e2867ae.jpg) right after the election, then? ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/722 "2017-02-09T03:16:13Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > I think **truthSeeker2** needs a [hug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbbEQkraYg) > > So this is [you](https://i.imgsafe.org/2a7e2867ae.jpg) right after the election, then? That pic was from arnd July 2016 but still I posted saying this was my reaction results. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/723 "2017-02-09T03:24:38Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I will do it, and add “idiot” to the items guys like you deserve. I already do know that many times polls like that one are only pointing at prohibiting terrorists from coming into other nations, **something that all do agree**. > > Unfortunately yahoos like you do willfully ignore that in the USA even the ones reporting the news miss a lot of nuance. While most indeed would like to ban any non vetted people to come from the failed nations the whole truth is that most Americans still do want to see refugees and already vetted people from those failed nations to come to the USA. > > [http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=16379](http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=16379) > > Yep, all that shows why the executive order has been challenged, Trump and other idiots (as a former diplomat had to say it un-diplomatically recently in an interview) are in reality harming a lot of humanitarian efforts and moves to deal with terrorism with such a wide net of an EO. Try to be constructive in your criticism. Avoid Labelling others, Avoid doubting what their intentions are or what they stand for. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/724 "2017-02-09T04:04:04Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Try to be constructive in your criticism. Avoid Labelling others, Avoid doubting what their intentions are or what they stand for. Cheers. So says the one that tell us that others here are intolerant/unstable/dishonest. Sure. And there is little doubt about how a reprehensible human you are, since you are so sincere. Others that were misguided into voting for Trump are bound to be usually better humans than you and the polls actually do show that. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/725 "2017-02-09T23:26:47Z")
[U.S. appeals court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-travel-ban-ruling-20170209-story.html). ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/726 "2017-02-09T23:55:49Z")
**"9th Circuit rules against reinstating travel ban"** \*\*DENIED! WOOT!\*\* Do you think our So-Called President is having a screaming tantrum right now? Do you think the Crybaby In Chief can overturn the Resolute desk with those freakishly tiny little hands? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/727 "2017-02-09T23:56:51Z")
More “so-called” judges! 😃 😉 😃 And now I can have hope that Trump will consult more grown up people before abusing his power. Of course that is just “hope” not much confidence on that. But at least I can see that checks and balances are still a real thing in this great nation. (That was already great, no thanks to El Trompo.) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/728 "2017-02-10T00:08:47Z")
SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE! tweets the person who is not fit to hold the office he currently occupies. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/729 "2017-02-10T00:26:31Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > [U.S. appeals court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-travel-ban-ruling-20170209-story.html). Ha! The so-called President is going to have a tweet-fit! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/730 "2017-02-10T00:28:05Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE! tweets the person who is not fit to hold the office he currently occupies. Hey! Leave me out of this. I kissed ass for al- Oh, Trump. Gotcha. Never mind. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/731 "2017-02-10T00:28:53Z")
“The security of our nation is at stake” No it fucking well isn’t. On the list the white house ITSELF prepared to show all those terrorist attacks, ONLY 9 out of 90 terrorists were from the “banned country list” The top two countries that supplied terrorists on THE White House list? France and the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/732 "2017-02-10T00:30:55Z")
So the Whitehouse released a list of “major terrorist attacks targeting the West” that they think provides great support for their ban. Aside from the fact that some of these are completely made-up bogus crap (for example, couple in Australia killed by non-terrorist dude), it is very interesting when one looks at where the people who committed these terrorist attacks are from: Of 90 Terrorists on this list, 9 are from countries on the “banned” list. Here is where these terrorists are from: France: 16 United States: 13 (11 citizens, 2 permanent residents) Tunisia: 6 Libya: 5 Bengal: 5 Saudi Arabia: 4 (they missed some here… what was that attack again?) Syria: 3 Algeria: 3 Indonesia: 3 Australia, Afghanastan, Bosnia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Russia, Turkey: 2 each Chad, Egypt, the Emirates, Iran, Morocco, the Palestinian Territories, Pakistan, Sweden, and the United Kingdom: 1 each Iraq: 0 Somalia: 0 Sudan: 0 Yemen: 0 This is the list that the White House offered as PROOF THAT THEIR BAN WAS NEEDED. Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/733 "2017-02-10T02:20:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So the Whitehouse released a list of “major terrorist attacks targeting the West” that they think provides great support for their ban. Aside from the fact that some of these are completely made-up bogus crap (for example, couple in Australia killed by non-terrorist dude), it is very interesting when one looks at where the people who committed these terrorist attacks are from: > > Of 90 Terrorists on this list, 9 are from countries on the “banned” list. > Here is where these terrorists are from: > France: 16 > United States: 13 (11 citizens, 2 permanent residents) > Tunisia: 6 > Libya: 5 > Bengal: 5 > Saudi Arabia: 4 (they missed some here… what was that attack again?) > Syria: 3 > Algeria: 3 > Indonesia: 3 > Australia, Afghanastan, Bosnia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Russia, Turkey: 2 each > Chad, Egypt, the Emirates, Iran, Morocco, the Palestinian Territories, Pakistan, Sweden, and the United Kingdom: 1 each > Iraq: 0 > Somalia: 0 > Sudan: 0 > Yemen: 0 > > This is the list that the White House offered as PROOF THAT THEIR BAN WAS NEEDED. > > Assholes. To be fair the the assholes, I thought that list was meant as proof of terrorist attacks that the media was “covering up” (later equivocated to “underreporting”). Granted, it failed at that, as well, since most (all?) of the attacks mentioned were reported on. But intending to prove one thing and instead disproving two things is par for the course for this administration. I was waiting for this, the first time Trump got his hands slapped by checks and balances. For the first time since the shithead took office, we’ve popped our heads up out of the sea of blood and taken a glorious breath. Hopefully there will be many more to come. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/734 "2017-02-10T04:01:20Z")
I heard on the news that the 9th appeals had rejected the gov’t’s argument that the president’s authority on immigration was “unreviewable.” That seems really shocking to me. The idea that the lawyers would argue for a fundamental break in the checks and balances of the US political system is well shocking. I had not heard that they had made this argument before the result came out. Again, the fact that they would even ask for this is very concerning. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/735 "2017-02-10T04:21:55Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The guys that did “Whiter Shade of Pale?” I heard that Steve Bannon prefers a remix called _A Paler Shade of White_. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/736 "2017-02-10T04:41:48Z")
Regarding today’s court decision: Ah HAHAHAHAHA! Take THAT, Trump, you fucking steaming pile of horseshit. Fuck YOU, fuck your whore wife and fuck your whore daughter! Fuck your entire fucking filthy family along with that cunt Conway and asswipe Bannon. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/737 "2017-02-10T05:05:46Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > To be fair the the assholes, I thought that list was meant as proof of terrorist attacks that the media was “covering up” (later equivocated to “underreporting”). Granted, it failed at that, as well, since most (all?) of the attacks mentioned were reported on. But intending to prove one thing and instead disproving two things is par for the course for this administration. > > I was waiting for this, the first time Trump got his hands slapped by checks and balances. For the first time since the shithead took office, we’ve popped our heads up out of the sea of blood and taken a glorious breath. Hopefully there will be many more to come. Didn’t the court also tell him they get to use his public statements as evidence of what he’s trying to pull? Given Trump’s complete inability to STFU on topics of which he has no valid knowledge, that’s going to be one mighty busy court. And I’m sure the Trumpites are bitching about California and Californians screwing the country when (a) it’s a federal court which covers a lot more than California, and (b) it’s Trump screwing the country. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/738 "2017-02-10T05:29:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Didn’t the court also tell him they get to use his public statements as evidence of what he’s trying to pull? Given Trump’s complete inability to STFU on topics of which he has no valid knowledge, that’s going to be one mighty busy court. > . I believe this is correct. Basically, if you campaign on banning Muslims, and tweet about how you’re going to ban Muslims, and instruct one of your minions to find a way to ban Muslims without it looking like you’re banning Muslims… Then you can’t really expect to use a defense of “I never meant to ban Muslims, only people from specific countries that happen to be majority Muslim and where I don’t have business interests” Apparently, nor can you use the defense of “This court is not the boss of me”. Nor can you use “I have secret information about the bad people, but I’m not going to tell you what it is, trust me” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/739 "2017-02-10T05:35:47Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Regarding today’s court decision: Ah HAHAHAHAHA! Take THAT, Trump, you fucking steaming pile of horseshit. Fuck YOU, fuck your whore wife and fuck your whore daughter! Fuck your entire fucking filthy family along with that cunt Conway and asswipe Bannon. Hear, hear! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/740 "2017-02-10T13:33:10Z")
Just feeling a wave of nostalgia for **Blinkyandpinky’s** ‘stellar track record’ of prediction. From Post 561: > [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Who’s they? > > I can certainly characterize the judge as an activist lunatic judge and BLM supporter. > > He looks like a leftist too. They’re usually fairly easy to spot just by their appearance. > > The delusional judge’s stunt that he pulled will soon be history and that will happen very soon, at the earliest possible time. Gotta say “He looks like a leftist” is one of one of my favoritest comments ever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=38)