# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/61 "2017-01-29T04:10:41Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I just wish to state for the record that I am not the horse that **Colibri** rode in on. Just in case **HeweyLogan** gets any ideas. Nor am I, and I already posted a statement from Homeland Security that the ban does include green card holders. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/62 "2017-01-29T04:14:56Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Great job on totally missing the point, jagoff. The point is that _his team won_. Who _cares_ what it means for the country if he gets to gloat and dance around and act like this is somehow the final defeat of the other team’s fans? ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/63 "2017-01-29T04:19:06Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > T— Please stop. Trump is neither a deity nor Voldemort, he’s an overweight man who wears ill-fitting suits. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > He carefully avoided those countries because he does personal business with them. “That makes me smart.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/64 "2017-01-29T04:23:19Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Nor am I, and I already posted a statement from Homeland Security that the ban does include green card holders. Right, and just in case **HeweyLogan** missed your post, for some reason: > **[Green card holders included in Trump ban -Homeland Security](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/green-card-holders-included-trump-152535025.html)** > > People holding so-called green cards, making them legal permanent U.S. residents, are included in President Donald Trump's executive action temporarily barring people from seven Muslim-majority countries ... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/65 "2017-01-29T04:25:09Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Remind me again why the United States is obligated to allow anyone and everyone that wants to emigrate here to do so? Where the fuck does any of that appear in the judge’s order or even in the law, dung? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/66 "2017-01-29T04:26:38Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > It’s tough for him to count to 4. He couldn’t count to 21 if he took off his shoes and pants. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/67 "2017-01-29T04:37:19Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > It is a she, **ThelmaLou**. Judge Ann M. Donelly of the Federal District Court in Brooklyn. Sorry. I didn’t read down that far in the article. [She’s not bad.](http://openjurist.org/sites/default/files/judges/DonnellyAnn.jpg?1459383115)If she would immediately dye her hair blond and put on some makeup, she might get to keep her job. Maybe that makeup person who worked for Marla Maples could help her out. (Kidding, of course! I salute her, even though I’m a civilian.) ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/68 "2017-01-29T04:41:38Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Trump is neither a deity nor Voldemort, he’s an overweight man who wears ill-fitting suits. Not to mention[elevator shoes, bad hair weaves and, apparently, adult diapers](http://imgur.com/a/c71hI). (or maybe that’s just an alternative ass he’s toting around) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/69 "2017-01-29T04:43:16Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > That simply isn’t true. Legal residents are free to come and go as they please. > > If you have information to the contrary, please cite it. Otherwise, fuck the horse you rode in here on. As has already been pointed out, the order applies to green card holders, who are legal residents, you fucking syphilitic marmoset. Nearly every article on the situation mentions it, you illiterate asswipe. If you can’t be bothered to read one fucking thing about the case, then piss the fuck off. Your posts just demonstrate what pathetic pieces of shit Trump supporters are. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/70 "2017-01-29T04:52:35Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Interesting that the [countries listed](http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/512199324/countries-listed-on-trumps-refugee-ban-dont-include-those-he-has-business-with) are not the countries that have the worst record of sending terrorists. He carefully avoided those countries because he does personal business with them. See, this is what comes of trusting unreliable sources like NPR. In point of fact, the actual order names only Syria, and then other countries that the State Department had previously listed as “countries of concern” as sources of terrorism. Guess which adminstration created that list of six countries? Hint: it rhymes with Yo Mama… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/71 "2017-01-29T04:56:32Z")
Five will get you eight Trump tries to use another executive order to fire the judges who stopped his bs. As I have posted before, Trump knows nothing about the government, nothing about the constitution, and nothing about the office of President in particular. By the way, last night, I saw the end of one episode of the new The Apprentice with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold governed better than Trump and he certainly did a far, far better job on The Apprentice than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/72 "2017-01-29T05:00:50Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Guess which adminstration created that list of six countries? Hint: it rhymes with Yo Mama… And let’s not even mention the six month ban on Iraqi refugees, carried out by none other than Obama. Not a peep from liberals then. And then there’s Obama’s ban on Cuban refugees. Not a peep from liberals there either. They are all full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/73 "2017-01-29T05:14:32Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > And let’s not even mention the six month ban on Iraqi refugees, carried out by none other than Obama. > > Not a peep from liberals then. > > And then there’s Obama’s ban on Cuban refugees. > > Not a peep from liberals there either. > > They are all full of shit. > **[Obama Admin Paused Iraq Refugee Program In 2011](https://thefederalist.com/2015/11/18/the-obama-administration-stopped-processing-iraq-refugee-requests-for-6-months-in-2011/)** > > Following reports that Iraqi terrorists slipped into the U.S. through its refugee program, the Obama admin halted that program for six months in 2011. In response to an actual credible threat, in order to revamp procedures to actually protect us? As opposed to this fear mongering? There was a guy whose fingerprints were on a bomb - can you tell me the credible threat that prompted this happy horseshit? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/74 "2017-01-29T05:21:29Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > And then there’s Obama’s ban on Cuban refugees. > > Not a peep from liberals there either. That’s because there’s no ban on Cuban refugees. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/75 "2017-01-29T05:21:54Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > As has already been pointed out, the order applies to green card holders, who are legal residents, you fucking syphilitic marmoset. Syphilitic marmoset? Holy shit you’re a nerd. lol. Once again, you said… > [@Colibri](#): > > A lot of these people were already legal residents, you fuckwit. Who? The two in New York who were the focus of MSNBC and the ACLU Saturday? Neither one of them had green cards, or were legal residents of the US. I’ll repeat - who are the legal residents you’re referring to that are being denied entry? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/76 "2017-01-29T05:23:43Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Syphilitic marmoset? Holy shit you’re a nerd. lol. > > Once again, you said… > > Who? The two in New York who were the focus of MSNBC and the ACLU Saturday? > > Neither one of them had green cards, or were legal residents of the US. > > I’ll repeat - who are the legal residents you’re referring to that are being denied entry? THE ONES THAT HOMELAND SECURITY SAID WOULD BE BANNED. Seriously - dont you trust trump’s government when they say that green card holders would be denied entry? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/77 "2017-01-29T05:26:57Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Syphilitic marmoset? Holy shit you’re a nerd. lol. And you’ve got shit for brains. Is that a sufficiently non-nerdy insult for you, douchebag? > [@](#): > > I’ll repeat - who are the legal residents you’re referring to that are being denied entry? Are you actually denying that green card holders aren’t part of the executive order after you’ve been given several cites? You really are hopeless. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/78 "2017-01-29T05:34:29Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > Syphilitic marmoset? Holy shit you’re a nerd. lol. You don’t understand it, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/79 "2017-01-29T06:01:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Five will get you eight Trump tries to use another executive order to fire the judges who stopped his bs. As I have posted before, Trump knows nothing about the government, nothing about the constitution, and nothing about the office of President in particular. > > By the way, last night, I saw the end of one episode of the new The Apprentice with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold governed better than Trump and he certainly did a far, far better job on The Apprentice than Trump. **Monty,** regarding “Trump tries to use another executive order to fire the judges who stopped his bs.” Someone please correct me if I am wrong but [Judge Ann M. Donelly](https://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/content/judge-ann-m-donnelly) is a United States District Court Judge for the Eastern District of New York. A federal judge can be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted by the Senate, but only if he or she commits an impeachable offense. [More here](http://www.answers.com/Q/Can_the_President_fire_a_federal_judge#slide=1). In short, all Trump can do is take a big bite out of his own Shit Sandwich. Amazing that his staff who wrote this executive order errored. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/80 "2017-01-29T06:04:55Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > **Monty** Regarding, “Trump tries to use another executive order to fire the judges who stopped his bs.” > > Someone please correct me if I am wrong but [Judge Ann M. Donelly](https://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/content/judge-ann-m-donnelly) is a United States District Court Judge for the Eastern District of New York. A federal judge can be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted by the Senate, but only if he or she commits an impeachable offense. [More here](http://www.answers.com/Q/Can_the_President_fire_a_federal_judge#slide=1). In short, all Trump can do is take a big bite out of a Shit Sandwich. **Monty** didn’t say Trump will fire her, he was laying odds he would try. Trump knows less about the gov’t and what he can or can’t do than a 1st grader knows about building a nuclear reactor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=5)