# Trump's Executive Order on Immigration - Let it Rip Dopers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468 "2017-01-29T01:44:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/161 "2017-01-29T17:35:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You seem to be taking this personally. Maybe it hits a little close to home? I was going to say “What do you mean, ‘many’-you and the mouse in your pocket?”…but I just got an email that says “Don’t be including me in this mess-He’s on his own” that was signed _The mouse in OMG’s pocket_. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/162 "2017-01-29T17:42:17Z")
> **[Syrian Christian family, visas in hand, turned back at airport | CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/us/syrian-family-trump-travel-ban/index.html)** > > A family of Syrian Christian immigrants arrive in Philadelphia to join their US relatives after a long wait. But because of President Trump's executive order, they are turned away. I just saw Trump say on TV that Christians weren’t going be to send up ! ! I read that his wife isn’t even here legally ,she overstayed her work visa. Trump, The Ugly American ! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/163 "2017-01-29T17:50:22Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Are you calling (many) posters on this board deranged morons? I think you just put that shoe on by yourself and declared it a perfect fit. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/164 "2017-01-29T17:58:45Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I politely demure. And the horse upon in which he rode. The word is “demur.” One thing you’re not is “demure.” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/165 "2017-01-29T18:30:55Z")
Well, I guess it’s understandable that Trump had to take such quick decisive action, after all of the terrorist attacks against the United States in the past 8 years, especially the recent weekly or even daily bombings and attacks. This is why he had to take quick action, because of the DANGER that every American finds themselves in EVERY DAY. You are clearly in a CRISIS right now, so Trump can be forgiven for acting quickly. Of course, if there had not been such a terrorist CRISIS ongoing in the United States, I’m sure your president would have acted more methodically; Identifying countries that are ACTUALLY exporting terrorists (hint - Saudi Arabia would have topped the list), formulating a plan to deal with vetting them more carefully, communicating this plan to the appropriate authorities who could then have put resources in place to make sure that a smooth process was put in place that increases safety while not causing chaos and pandemonium. But since there was a CRISIS OF IMPENDING DOOM, actions had to be taken right away without regard to negative consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/166 "2017-01-29T18:34:57Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I just wish to state for the record that I am not the horse that **Colibri** rode in on. Just in case **HeweyLogan** gets any ideas. [¡Olé!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010aaw1Ajo0&t=0m13s) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/167 "2017-01-29T18:35:54Z")
As Ramira so accurately put it elsewhere on this board, it’s Yosemite Sam diplomacy. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/168 "2017-01-29T18:42:20Z")
**Mrs. Siam Sam** is back in Thailand until early March. She’s a green-card holder, and I’m worried about what could happen. Sure, she is not a Muslim and does not have a Muslim name. Thailand’s not on the list and is not a Muslim country anyway. But there is a Muslim population there, and for the past 13 years they’ve been waging an insurrection in the country’s far South, down the Malay Peninsula. So who knows what that orange-haired fuck will do next. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/169 "2017-01-29T18:44:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The word is “demur.” One thing you’re not is “demure.” Reminds of an episode of MASH, wherein Hot Lips wanted to put on some girly bait. instructing Clinger(?) to make her a dress so that she would look coy, demure and mysterious or she would break every bone in his body. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/170 "2017-01-29T19:00:07Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > I believe that you are mistaken, but we will no doubt see what happens in the future. > > I believe that there is a direct inverse relationship between liberal sadness and the happiness of others. Thanks for letting me know you are an asshole. I will ignore you henceforth. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/171 "2017-01-29T19:02:49Z")
I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. And they’re saying two Republican congressional leaders are now coming out strongly against it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/172 "2017-01-29T19:08:28Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. And they’re saying two Republican congressional leaders are now coming out strongly against it. Against Greem Card holders coming back in or Trump’s Executive ORder? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/173 "2017-01-29T19:15:32Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Against Greem Card holders coming back in or Trump’s Executive ORder? It just said they would be allowed in. Was on that little news feed that crawls across the screen. I guess details are coming. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/174 "2017-01-29T19:16:22Z")
The press over here are going on about it being an anti-Muslim order, but I’ve looked at the order as detailed in the OP, and as far as I can tell, in the general exclusion part, it affects persons of all faiths. Christian, Muslim, Zoroastran, all of them. Only in the part about refugees does it mandate prioritising minority faiths. Am I reading it correctly? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/175 "2017-01-29T19:20:47Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > The press over here are going on about it being an anti-Muslim order, but I’ve looked at the order as detailed in the OP, and as far as I can tell, in the general exclusion part, it affects persons of all faiths. Christian, Muslim, Zoroastran, all of them. Only in the part about refugees does it mandate prioritising minority faiths. > > Am I reading it correctly? One analyst I listened to made very good points about why it is indeed a de-facto Muslim ban. One, lots people like me consider it one. Two, lots of right-wingers like David Duke are not just considering it one but actually _celebrating_ this Muslim ban. Then it seems Christians can be granted exceptions? I’m not clear on that last part. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/176 "2017-01-29T19:44:47Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > > > I just saw on CNN that Rancid Priebus says green-card holders will be allowed back in after all. And they’re saying two Republican congressional leaders are now coming out strongly against it. > > > [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > > > Against Greem Card holders coming back in or Trump’s Executive ORder? > > Against Greem Card holders coming back in or Trump’s Executive ORder? I propose that for the duration the practice should be known as Executive Ordure. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/177 "2017-01-29T19:49:43Z")
Even if this ban were a good idea, which it most certainly is not, the way in which it was carried out was moronic. As another analyst said: “It was like amateur night at the Apollo Theater.” Embassies were not warned. Border-security personnel were not warned. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/178 "2017-01-29T19:56:43Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Even if this ban were a good idea, which it most certainly is not, the way in which it was carried out was moronic. As another analyst said: “It was like amateur night at the Apollo Theater.” Embassies were not warned. Border-security personnel were not warned. Etc. Canadian officials are getting conflicting opinions about what this might mean for dual citizens of Canada and listed countries… Because nobody in the US government knows what the fuck is going on. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/179 "2017-01-29T20:01:59Z")
Green-card and visa holders boarded planes thinking they’d be admitted, and then the ordure was signed while they were in flight, and they were out of luck. Jesus Fuck! Who had to bear the cost of flying them back where they came from? I know in normal circumstances, it’s the airline, because they were supposed to make sure the passenger would have been able to enter the country. But now? ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468/180 "2017-01-29T20:11:16Z")
It’s only been ten days and The Orange Moron has already managed to sink the country into a… [**Fuckin’ Chaos**](http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html) No doubt his acolytes & sycophants must be proud. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-let-it-rip-dopers/778468.md?page=10)