# Trump's favorability rating is on the rise since election. Why? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 6, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057 "2016-12-06T22:17:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/101 "2016-12-09T10:29:36Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > But we also have only 37% of Americans who consider him well-qualified and 31% who consider him moral. That’s Republican dissatisfaction dragging down those numbers, not just Democratic opposition. > Not to mention logic, facts, science and reason. You are right that liberals in general tend not to like that about him. Oh, I don’t know about that. I’ve seen countless instances when liberals insist we turn a blind eye to logic, facts, science and reason in service to political correctness. In my own life I’ve heard people called sexist for pointing out to a feminist that there are indeed some things a man can do that a woman can’t (and for the record things a woman can do that a man can’t, but they likewise get left out of PC discussions). And I’ve seen and read of people getting called racist for making the perfectly obvious observation that blacks seem to excel over whites in sports. I’ve also on occasion seen liberals admit the reason for this is that if we admit a racial difference in one way, even if it’s positive, it opens the door to bigots arguing negative differences exist as well. So to be good and humane citizens we’re expected to ignore reality and pretend a different one exists because the goal is righteous. Now I’m not in any way favorable to people making racist remarks (provided they’re really racist that is), but I’m also not favorable to people getting called names for daring to comment on ‘inconvenient truths’, and liberals insist on this all the time. So what happens to your vaunted liberal appreciation for facts, logic, reason and science when these issues come up, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/102 "2016-12-09T10:33:13Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > “The man on the street” doesn’t include liberals and Democrats? I guess they’re all huddled away in their ivory towers, sneering down at the street-level Trump-supporting Real Americans. While it’s easy to understand your elitist paranoia, you guess wrong. They’re essentially apolitical. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/103 "2016-12-09T10:51:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ve seen countless instances […] In my own life I’ve heard […] And I’ve seen and read of […] I’ve also on occasion seen […] So what happens to your vaunted liberal appreciation for facts, logic, reason and science when these issues come up, eh? :rolleyes: Cool story, bro, but your personal anecdotes are not factual cites. (Note, of course, that I’m not saying that **no** liberal **ever** says **anything** non-factual or unreasonable. Liberals are fallible humans too.) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/104 "2016-12-09T10:58:08Z")
They don’t have to be factual cites. They’re simply examples of instances where liberals insist a blind eye must be turned to reality for the sake of some societal goal, and I’d bet dollars to donuts every person here knows and has observed exactly what I’m talking about whether they’ll admit it or not. And nice try for acting like even if some liberal somewhere ever behaves this way it’s far from the norm. It’s pretty much _always_ the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/105 "2016-12-09T11:01:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > They’re essentially apolitical. Where are you getting the notion that “essentially apolitical” people are a significant demographic in this survey? AFAICT, [the survey report](http://www.people-press.org/2016/12/08/low-approval-of-trumps-transition-but-outlook-for-his-presidency-improves/) divides respondents into those who are Democratic or Democratic-leaning, and those who are Republican or Republican-leaning. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/106 "2016-12-09T11:03:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > They don’t have to be factual cites. Well, if you want to persuade anybody else that they’re actually true, then yeah, they kind of do. If, on the other hand, you just want to go on reinforcing your own views in the personal echo chamber of your own brain, then never mind and carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/107 "2016-12-09T14:39:18Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Even Republicans appear to be a lot less happy with Trump than they were with previous Republican, or even some Democratic, incoming presidents. In fact, [most Americans are seriously dissatisfied with Trump](http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/donald-trump-approval-ratings-pew-poll-transition/index.html): Unfortunately, the Pew poll cited in that article does seem to be an outlier; polling since the election has been [all over the map](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating), but no one else places his favorability quite as low as that one. (Even so, he’s pretty clearly coming into office with lower favorability ratings than _most_ incoming presidents.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/108 "2016-12-09T14:54:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You have got to be kidding me! I can’t believe you have the gall to question this! It goes on around here all. the. time! > > But you’re right, I’m not going to bother going on a hunt for cites, but mostly because of a lack of unique keywords that would flush them out. It happens so often it can’t be found!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/109 "2016-12-09T15:32:33Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > “The man on the street” doesn’t include liberals and Democrats? I guess they’re all huddled away in their ivory towers, sneering down at the street-level Trump-supporting Real Americans. I’m still waiting for my Ivory Tower. Are they on backorder or something? I want to do some sneering! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/110 "2016-12-09T17:21:18Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > I’m still waiting for my Ivory Tower. Are they on backorder or something? I want to do some sneering! Can’t import them into the country anymore, thanks to libtards and their emo animal rights whining… /SA ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/111 "2016-12-09T18:19:51Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > > What that poll boils down to is Republicans and the man on the street are mostly happy with Trump and liberals and Democrats aren’t. It says nothing of any real substance as to the quality of the job Trump is doing as he prepares for the presidency. > > “The man on the street” doesn’t include liberals and Democrats? I guess they’re all huddled away in their ivory towers, sneering down at the street-level Trump-supporting Real Americans. Liberals have a secret underground tunnel system that zips them from one ivory tower to another wihtout any of that intervening time spent with haven’t to dodge all of these men roaming around in the streets. Did you not get the memo? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > It happens so often it can’t be found!! Along with those three million illegal voters. There is a vast combined left-wing/illegal immigrant/climate science conspiracy. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/112 "2016-12-09T21:16:47Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Liberals have a secret underground tunnel system that zips them from one ivory tower to another wihtout any of that intervening time spent with haven’t to dodge all of these men roaming around in the streets. Did you not get the memo? Of course! I had nearly forgotten about the _Covert Liberal Instant Network for Transport Of Non-conservatives_. I just need to download the app. I hear that the Starbucks down there have a special menu. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/113 "2016-12-09T21:22:15Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Even when the facts they contain are obvious and beyond reproach, the offending post will be dismissed out of hand. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > They don’t have to be factual cites. I’ll bet we could hook up a pulley system and electric generator to those goalposts of yours and generate a ton of free energy. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057/114 "2016-12-09T22:24:10Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Can’t import them into the country anymore, thanks to libtards and their emo animal rights whining… /SA I’d be ok with synthetic ivory. Or wood painted to look like ivory. Or even Chinese steel painted to look like ivory. It’s more the tower and sneering I’m looking for. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-favorability-rating-is-on-the-rise-since-election-why/774057.md?page=5)