# Trump's gonna need a bigger bus (to throw people under)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 10, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276 "2017-08-10T20:15:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/1 "2017-08-10T20:15:59Z")

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I am amused to see that Trump just said we should declare opioid abuse a national emergence, just a day after his very own Secretary of HHS, Tom Price, stated that this approach wasn’t needed.

On the substance (no pun intended) of the matter, I don’t have a strong opinion - from what I’ve read, the official declaration of an emergency can be helpful, but the job of getting more treatment and prevention services in place can be done with or without an official declaration.

But Price is just the latest in a long line of Trump’s people to be publicly contradicted. I wonder if anyone, outside of immediate family members (and maybe not even some o them) will get out of his administration without this sort of public humiliation.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/2 "2017-08-10T20:24:18Z")

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He’s been going after McConnell lately, too. Ain’t nothin’ gonna get done now.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/3 "2017-08-10T20:43:58Z")

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Obama should issue a statement sympathetic to McConnell.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/4 "2017-08-10T21:35:18Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Obama should issue a statement sympathetic to McConnell.

Something on the order of “Mitch did a masterful job at blocking my legislative initiatives and I wish him continued success.”?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/5 "2017-08-10T21:49:29Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> He’s been going after McConnell lately, too. Ain’t nothin’ gonna get done now.

That explains why Trump can’t get a bigger bus.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/6 "2017-08-10T22:27:53Z")

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Really want to make a “short bus” joke, but none are coming to mind…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/7 "2017-08-10T23:07:05Z")

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Naah, he just needs to have the bus driver do more laps.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/8 "2017-08-11T00:11:24Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I am amused to see that Trump just said we should declare opioid abuse a national emergence, just a day after his very own Secretary of HHS, Tom Price, stated that this approach wasn’t needed.
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> On the substance (no pun intended) of the matter, I don’t have a strong opinion - from what I’ve read, the official declaration of an emergency can be helpful, but the job of getting more treatment and prevention services in place can be done with or without an official declaration.
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> But Price is just the latest in a long line of Trump’s people to be publicly contradicted. I wonder if anyone, outside of immediate family members (and maybe not even some o them) will get out of his administration without this sort of public humiliation.

That reversal is interesting. As is the report.

Because there’s a recommendation in there that Republicans will HATE with the heat of a thousand suns.

Currently, Medicaid will not reimburse rehab facilities with more than 16 beds. This is because of an old rule intended to keep the federal government from paying for long-term psychiatric hospitalization.

[http://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/07/31/presidential-opioid-commission-recommends-increased-federal-investment-113709](http://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/07/31/presidential-opioid-commission-recommends-increased-federal-investment-113709)

The commission has recommended changing that. Which will be a huge Medicaid expansion. Paul Ryan will drown in his own tears. And Trump is beating the “pass a healthcare bill” drum again. And he’s been beating on Mitch, too.

That Obama-hugging scamp Chris Christie throws a wrench into the GOP machine again!!

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/9 "2017-08-11T01:02:21Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Something on the order of “Mitch did a masterful job at blocking my legislative initiatives and I wish him continued success.”?

I’m glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/10 "2017-08-11T05:39:33Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Something on the order of “Mitch did a masterful job at blocking my legislative initiatives and I wish him continued success.”?

😃

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/11 "2017-08-11T05:59:16Z")

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Trump has now thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats from Russia. :smack:  
That’s the whole State Department he’s thrown under the bus.

[http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-thanks-vladimir-putin-diplomats-241498](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-thanks-vladimir-putin-diplomats-241498)

I think he’s trying to give Monty Python a run for their money.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/12 "2017-08-11T06:22:06Z")

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How so? He’s certainly a twit, but hardly upper class.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/13 "2017-08-11T07:22:58Z")

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Trump has the biggest bus. The _greatest_ bus. He got a call just the other day from the head of the bus commission, told him he had the best bus they’d ever heard of, he’d be honored to be thrown under it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/14 "2017-08-11T09:44:56Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump has the biggest bus. The _greatest_ bus. He got a call just the other day from the head of the bus commission, told him he had the best bus they’d ever heard of, he’d be honored to be thrown under it.

He needs to fit knobbies on that thing so he won’t lose traction going over the bodies.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/16 "2017-08-11T19:17:52Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> Trump has now thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats from Russia. :smack:  
> That’s the whole State Department he’s thrown under the bus.
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-thanks-vladimir-putin-diplomats-241498](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/10/trump-thanks-vladimir-putin-diplomats-241498)
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> I think he’s trying to give Monty Python a run for their money.

The NYT has noted today something that I don’t think is a very big surprise: Of all the major political figures in the world, the one he has never, ever criticized is Putin.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/17 "2017-08-11T19:42:57Z")

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It’s a little melodramatic opinion piece, but it highlights how Trump treats people:

[Donald Trump has a sickening fetish for cruelty](Donald Trump has a sickening fetish for cruelty)  
Trump is basically a 71-year old kid delightedly melting ants under his magnifying glass

> [@](#):
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> Over the previous year, Romney had been bitterly critical of Trump, calling him “con man” and “a fraud” — yet upon winning, Trump dangled the possibility of naming Romney to the position of secretary of State, leading to what would soon become Romney’s Last Supper.
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> …
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> Of course, two weeks later, Trump picked oil executive Rex Tillerson to be his secretary of State, ending Romney’s parade of public humiliation. But Trump got exactly what he wanted: After the dinner, Romney told reporters that Trump “continues with a message of inclusion and bringing people together,” and that his "vision is something which obviously connected with the American people in a very powerful way.” Romney became another well-coiffed head for Trump’s trophy case.
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> …
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> Who can forget Trump holding an enormous umbrella and yet still forcing sycophantic Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey to walk in the pouring rain? Or Trump mocking Christie to his face as he forced Christie to stand behind him on stage like a hostage?
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> One can even forgive the American public being “Little Marco’ed,” “Lyin’ Ted’ed” and “Crooked Hillary’ed” to exhaustion during the election. This is something entirely new — Trump clearly is a sadist who enjoys humiliating his opponents after he has already won.
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> Simply ask the third participant in the November dinner, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus. After months of harming his own reputation defending Trump’s indefensible actions, Priebus was not only pushed out but done so in the most embarrassing way possible. As if to emphasize Priebus’ “weakness,” Trump brought in tough guy flesh-and-bone absurdity Anthony Scaramucci to show Priebus the door. Then “The Mooch” was dumped himself days later in his own whirlpool of humiliation.
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> Or ask Attorney General Jeff Sessions, whom Trump shreds on a daily basis because the president doesn’t have the stomach to fire him. Or former FBI director James Comey, whose decision to decline Trump’s request for a “loyalty pledge” led to a firing surgically engineered to ruin Comey’s name.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/18 "2017-08-11T22:05:31Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> It’s a little melodramatic opinion piece, but it highlights how Trump treats people:
> 
> [Donald Trump has a sickening fetish for cruelty](Donald Trump has a sickening fetish for cruelty)  
> Trump is basically a 71-year old kid delightedly melting ants under his magnifying glass

Link is broken; correct link [Donald Trump has a sickening fetish for cruelty](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/05/trump-has-fetish-cruelty-christian-schneider-column/537483001/)

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/19 "2017-08-12T18:26:40Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> [QUOTE=GreenWyvern]
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> Trump has now thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats from Russia.  
> That’s the whole State Department he’s thrown under the bus.
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> [http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...plomats-241498](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...plomats-241498)
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> I think he’s trying to give Monty Python a run for their money.

The NYT has noted today something that I don’t think is a very big surprise: Of all the major political figures in the world, the one he has never, ever criticized is Putin.  
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The sheer incompetence of this President/Clown **is dazzling** , even setting aside his corrupt and treasonous doings — _mind-blowing_. _ **Truth is stranger than fiction.** _

Approaching late middle age, I was curious what would happen in 2016 and am glad, I guess, that I lived to find out. [SUB][SUP]BTW, **Mr. Wyvern** ’s post caught my eye because I have a personal interest in the Sate Dept., though to say even this much may give away a secret.[/SUP][/SUB]

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/20 "2017-08-12T23:02:50Z")

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I amend my previous statement. Trump will go out and get a Dodge Charger for future en-‘roll’-ees.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-gonna-need-a-bigger-bus-to-throw-people-under/793276/21 "2017-08-15T21:06:22Z")

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Trump body checks Steve Bannon and then keeps on running.

> **[Trump: ‘We’ll see what happens’ with strategist Bannon](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/trump-steve-bannon-white-house-job-241659)**
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> Trump says Bannon "is a good person and I think the press treats him frankly unfairly."

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