# Trump's health **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 15, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963 "2016-08-15T23:33:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/21 "2016-08-16T08:20:03Z")
Cheeto dust has very powerful healing qualities. ---
**Author:** ![Sputnikkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Sputnikkk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sputnikkk)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/22 "2016-08-16T08:41:55Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Honestly I mean women tend to outlive men and everything, but to me Hillary looks physically very frail, it looks like she needs help walking up stairs. She’s had a concussion and I think it was a blood clot between her skull and brain. I mean you can’t obviously know somebody’s health from a glance but to me Trump “looks” healthier compared to Hillary, also supposedly he doesn’t drink or smoke. I think Trump looks puffy and is carrying weight up high around the middle which looks like heart attack to me. Hillary looks a bit frail or anemic but that won’t kill you. Also, if Trump didn’t have spray tan on, his whole face would be blue, like it is around his eyes which doesn’t look healthy either. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/23 "2016-08-16T10:55:13Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’ve been seeing it crop up more lately from Trump surrogates, and on-line posters with no history (paid, I suspect). It’s certainly something that is being pushed. **Little Nemo** is likely correct; it smells of desperation. Well done. You got that in _before_ this: > [@pool](#): > > Honestly I mean women tend to outlive men and everything, but to me Hillary looks physically very frail, it looks like she needs help walking up stairs. She’s had a concussion and I think it was a blood clot between her skull and brain. I mean you can’t obviously know somebody’s health from a glance but to me Trump “looks” healthier compared to Hillary, also supposedly he doesn’t drink or smoke. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/24 "2016-08-16T11:13:04Z")
I think both of them appear to be in fine health. It takes a tremendous amount of stamina and endurance just to run for President these days, and I see no reason to believe that either of them would have a problem displaying the stamina and endurance it takes to be President. This is subject to reevaluation in four years, of course, or even sooner. Both of them are at an age where health can change overnight. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/25 "2016-08-16T11:42:59Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Did they mention whether Trump takes bp medicine? If so, that number is very believable. Actually not so much so. BP meds are not generally initiated unless BP is over 150 systolic or 90 diastolic and the goal is just to get under that or maybe to under 140/80 if being treated aggressively for some reason. A single antihypertensive med will lower BP generally only a few points, not dozens. No way he is being treated for hypertension and is at 110/65. It is just not consistent with medical practice. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/26 "2016-08-16T11:43:04Z")
Physically, they’re probably okay for people of their age. The demands of the office may catch up to either pretty quickly and the winner, whoever she is, may not choose to run for a second term. Neither is going to run the 100m in less than a minute but then again we aren’t electing an athlete. Mentally, I question Trump’s health. He unquestionably has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Sometimes it’s Xanax Trump that takes the podium and he seems rather mellow, other times it’s Horse Liniment On The Testicles Trump. Either way, he isn’t mentally fit to serve. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/27 "2016-08-16T12:20:16Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Actually not so much so. BP meds are not generally initiated unless BP is over 150 systolic or 90 diastolic and the goal is just to get under that or maybe to under 140/80 if being treated aggressively for some reason. A single antihypertensive med will lower BP generally only a few points, not dozens. > > No way he is being treated for hypertension and is at 110/65. It is just not consistent with medical practice. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/28 "2016-08-16T13:00:08Z")
My best guess is that Trump is probably in fine physical shape. He is keeping up a strenuous schedule. As mentioned above, he’s never been a smoker or drinker. His father lived to 93 and his mother to 88. Those are decent indicators that we can use to guess that he probably isn’t near the end of his lifespan. His mental health is a completely different story :p. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/29 "2016-08-16T13:08:06Z")
I’ll just add that healthiest president ever elected does seem to be a bit of a stretch. Carter was elected over 40 years ago and until recently has been doing well. I’d be hard pressed to say that Trump is currently healthier than Carter was in 1976. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/30 "2016-08-16T13:21:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Blood pressure 110/65? Maybe 110/65 PSI. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/31 "2016-08-16T13:33:10Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Thanks. I have no idea how healthy he is but I do wonder if his medical report was written by Dr John Barron. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/32 "2016-08-16T13:54:47Z")
Are you saying Trump is positive? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/33 "2016-08-16T15:01:59Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Well, he _looks_ healthy. Not. He looks a helluva lot healthier than a lot of 70-year-olds. At that age my father spent his time dying. I am pretty impressed anyone Trump or Clinton’s age has the energy to pull a 110-hour-a-week job. My mother is the same age as Hillary Clinton and she bitches about being exhausted if she has to buy groceries. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/34 "2016-08-16T15:46:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Well done. You got that in _before_ this: They always seem so very _concerned_ about her health don’t they? What nice folks. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/35 "2016-08-16T16:54:54Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Doesn’t he look tired? I think you mean “Don’t you think he looks tired?” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/36 "2016-08-16T21:09:08Z")
But, at his funeral, no one is going to day “Don’t he look natural?” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/37 "2016-08-16T22:03:20Z")
[Good article from Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836)that brings up all of the strange things about Trump’s “doctor letter”. I’m in agreement with the author that the strange non-medical wording most likely means that Trump wrote this himself. A couple of other odd things that I had not noticed: - The letter head is in the same font as the letter - as if the whole thing were produced in MS Word - The signature is very low - almost like the letter had been written after someone had signed a blank piece of paper - The letter has a gmail address, which is unusual for a doctor (how many specialists want you to contact them directly through email?) - The website on the “letterhead” does not exist - the domain is for sale Someone really, REALLY needs to check into this Harold Bernstein to see what’s up. And even if the letter really was written by this doctor - it is no substitute for an ACTUAL medical history (as the Newsweek article points out.) Trump and his proxies opened up this line of questioning the moment they pulled the “concern about Clinton’s health canard”. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/38 "2016-08-16T22:06:28Z")
I’m more concerned about his _mental_ health. Interestingly, there is an actual rule that prohibits psychiatrists from weighing in on Trump’s mental health (or that of any other candidate, but obviously more relevant to Trump), based on his public statements etc.: the so-called “Goldwater Rule”. > **[Goldwater Rule: Don't Discuss Trump's Mental State | Law & Crime](https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dont-question-donald-trumps-mental-health-at-least-not-if-youre-a-psychiatrist/)** > > This has been an issue during elections since 1964, when Fact magazine published the results of a survey they took of psychiatrists, asking whether Republican Presidential candidate Senator Barry Goldwater was psychologically fit for the position. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/39 "2016-08-16T23:16:25Z")
I’m reading the _Newsweek_ article and something strikes me about the whole thing: It’s just an incomprehensibly terrible lie. It’s like a lie a small child would tell, one who understands the idea of lying but doesn’t have enough of an understanding of other people to be able to do it well. The factual errors are so glaring that whoever wrote it couldn’t possibly have done any research, and the stylistic oddities are so pervasive that it reads like a five-year-old claiming their dad the Army Man goes to space every week and is President of Nintendo. The letter is so bad it must not have occurred to the author that anyone would check their work. It must not have occurred to the author that anyone would _read_ their work. Maybe I’m just accustomed to being around sane people, but adults don’t tell lies like that. I have a two-year-old niece who claims that one of her family’s cats is her sister. (However, the more standoffish boy-cat is _not_ her brother.) I find that more comprehensible than the idea that an adult wrote that doctor’s note. They might as well have signed it “Trump’s Mother”. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963/40 "2016-08-16T23:33:10Z")
Another thing that bothers me about Trumpy Wumpy’s clean bill o’ health is how open the “doctor” is to talk about his BP and his test results. I’d ream my doctor for telling anyone what my BP is and then publish it in a newspaper. If that letter were real, Donny Boy would be screaming about it, blaming Obamacare for all of the secrets on his health spilled to the unworthy media. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-health/762963.md?page=3)