# Trump's Major Announcement - Choose Your Poison **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 19, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014 "2019-01-19T00:14:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/21 "2019-01-19T11:43:27Z")
My guess is that he’ll offer some trivial concession in return for the wall and pretend it’s a big deal that should have Pelosi and Schumer leaping at the opportunity. Other than that, I expect his position to remain unchanged. Also, he just wants to get on TV. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/22 "2019-01-19T11:45:03Z")
[From CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-make-major-announcement-on-border-saturday/): > [@](#): > > A senior administration official told CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent Major Garrett that Mr. Trump will present what the White House believes could be a deal to end the shutdown. The deal was largely influenced by talks between Vice President Mike Pence, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner. Well, if Trump, Pence, Mitch, and Jared all agree on it, it’s **got** to be a fair compromise, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/23 "2019-01-19T12:05:09Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > He will, on live TV, pull a revolver, try to point to his head, and shoot himself in the foot instead. It’s going to have to be a small revolver… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/24 "2019-01-19T14:00:03Z")
Didn’t we already have one of these last week? Call me when the schmuck actually does something instead of blathering on and on and leaving soldiers unpaid. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/25 "2019-01-19T14:03:28Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I feel like he’s trying to build anticipation and tension, with the hopes he’ll attract trillions upon quadrillions of viewers. And then, once the camera’s on, he’ll continue to be completely unreasonable and demand Chuck and Nancy come to the WH and give in to his demands while blaming them for the lost paychecks and weak border. It’s all about publicity and attempting to control the coverage for him rather than actually being a leader. > [@RTFirefly](#): > > My guess is that he’ll offer some trivial concession in return for the wall and pretend it’s a big deal that should have Pelosi and Schumer leaping at the opportunity. > > Other than that, I expect his position to remain unchanged. > > Also, he just wants to get on TV. Something like these two. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/26 "2019-01-19T14:17:24Z")
Scary brown foreigners are raping the women and killing cops, so the government will remain shutdown until democrats fund the wall. Something like that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/27 "2019-01-19T14:23:44Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Scary brown foreigners are raping the women and killing cops, so the government will remain shutdown until democrats fund the wall. > > Something like that. Don’t forget that they’re leaving so many prayer rugs scattered through South Texas that from satellites the desert looks like Aunt Mabel’s multicolored crazy quilt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/28 "2019-01-19T16:36:10Z")
This just in from [Axios](https://www.axios.com/trump-expected-immigration-compromise-speech-border-wall-a8713395-d085-4921-a0c8-699872dcd534.html): > [@](#): > > President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech. > > The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge. > > Jared Kushner and Mike Pence have led the crafting of this deal and the negotiations with members, according to White House officials. > … Nancy said, “No wall,” so we’ll see… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/29 "2019-01-19T16:50:25Z")
My guess is he’ll be giving in and accepting what the Democrats have offered. But he’ll declare that he’s won a great victory. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/30 "2019-01-19T17:27:19Z")
From the [National Immigration Law Center](https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-reform-and-executive-actions/faq-bridge-act/): > [@](#): > > **Is the BRIDGE Act the same as the Dream Act?** > > No. The Dream Act did not pass when Congress voted on it in 2011, and it has not been reintroduced since then. The Dream Act would have permitted certain immigrants who grew up in the U.S. to obtain temporary legal status and eventually to apply for and obtain permanent legal status, then U.S. citizenship. To be eligible, they would have had to meet certain education-related requirements or have served in the U.S. military. > > The BRIDGE Act would not provide a pathway to U.S. citizenship. It only would allow people who are eligible for—or who already have—DACA to receive work authorization and provisional protected presence for, at most, three years. I won’t say this is trivial, but it’s not much, IMHO. If Mitch wants to hold a Senate vote on this, let him. It would be the first shutdown-related vote in the Senate since the shutdown began 28.5 days ago. (And I will continue to note that the first 12.5 days of the shutdown happened under unified GOP control of WH and Congress. During which period the GOP attempts to reopen the government were…lackadaisical? Nah, closer to flatlined.) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/31 "2019-01-19T17:28:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > This just in from [Axios](https://www.axios.com/trump-expected-immigration-compromise-speech-border-wall-a8713395-d085-4921-a0c8-699872dcd534.html): > Nancy said, “No wall,” so we’ll see… 'No wall, no wall, you’re the wall." 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/32 "2019-01-19T17:56:10Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > (And I will continue to note that the first 12.5 days of the shutdown happened under unified GOP control of WH and Congress. During which period the GOP attempts to reopen the government were…lackadaisical? Nah, closer to flatlined.) I’ll continue to note that with neither party in the Senate wanting to remove the legislative filibuster, the Senate was not effectively under GOP control for the last two years. The only appropriations bills getting through the Senate were going to be bipartisan. There were options including just a CR to sort the rest out. Trump’s on-again/off-again veto threat effectively killed all possible compromises. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/33 "2019-01-19T17:58:12Z")
Why is it that every time I read the thread title, I think of ‘It’s a Major Award!’? ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/34 "2019-01-19T18:08:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Why is it that every time I read the thread title, I think of ‘It’s a Major Award!’? Great, now I will probably too ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/35 "2019-01-19T18:10:54Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > I’ll continue to note that with neither party in the Senate wanting to remove the legislative filibuster, the Senate was not effectively under GOP control for the last two years. And I’ll remind you that that was because, rather than being able to pass appropriations bills by a simple majority, the GOP-controlled Senate used its one filibuster-exempt bill in 2017 to try to pass legislation killing Obamacare, and in 2018, they used it to pass their $2 trillion tax cut for rich people and big corporations. If they’re in a bind, it’s because they put themselves in this bind in the service of their ‘higher’ goals. Not to mention, Mitch is free to kill the filibuster, just the way he killed the filibuster on Supreme Court Justices. If he still has to deal with the filibuster, it’s because it suits him to do so. And if he won’t call a vote, who’s to say whether it matters? ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/36 "2019-01-19T18:16:48Z")
It\* was\* going to be a declaration of a national emergency, but in light of all the attention BuzzFeed is getting, it’s going to be an unhinged rant about the media and fake news. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/37 "2019-01-19T20:01:57Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > And I’ll remind you that that was because, rather than being able to pass appropriations bills by a simple majority, FY 2019 started October 1st. Budget reconciliation was available from that day on. Using reconciliation wouldn’t have helped unless Senate Republicans actually wanted to give Trump his wall money. The majority was slim enough that could have been difficult. I’m actually glad that the Senate isn’t killing the filibuster to deal with one issue, even one this big. Trump’s repeatedly called for them to do it multiple times during his term and they haven’t tried. He asked again in [December](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/422467-gop-senators-reject-trump-proposal-to-go-nuclear-on-wall). McConnell said he didn’t have the votes for it. That link has four Republicans that went on record at the time to say they wouldn’t vote for it. The nuclear option was off the table unless a couple Democrats crossed the aisle to help so that Trump could get his wall money. Obama had four months during his first two years where he had 60 votes in the Senate and got ACA through. For the rest of that first two years, he had the same level of control as the GOP enjoyed for Trump’s first two years. He had the House and a Senate majority but not enough for cloture. Senate Republicans trashed his legislative agenda via the filibuster. I called out Republicans who claimed incompetence by Democrats because they had “control” of the government at the time. I call out Democrats who make that same argument now. Where did you fall on the Obama administration being stymied? Republican obstructionism or Democratic legislative incompetence? I wouldn’t schedule a vote on the House bill if I was Majority Leader, either. It’s pure political theater. The House bill doesn’t have the votes to override a veto. The President has promised a veto. A vote just sets up GOP Senators to go on record in a contentious bill with no chance of reopening the government. I get why Democrats are trying to set that trap. There’s no downside to them. There’s no upside to GOP Senators. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/38 "2019-01-19T20:02:52Z")
[Washington post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.09c1821dbf3d)says, that he’s going to offer up the Dreamers he’s been holding hostage in exchange for the wall, along with a prediction that Pelosi will say, that he should open the government first and then they can talk. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/39 "2019-01-19T21:44:11Z")
Hi everybody who isn’t me! Hey, just a quick thing here, ha-ha. Of course, you don’t owe me anything, but I’d like to ask a favor. Don’t watch this live on tv, ok? You’ll hear what it was about soon enough. Deprive this unworthy bastard of his cherished tv ratings, if you’d be so kind. Thanks, bobot good guy ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-major-announcement-choose-your-poison/828014/40 "2019-01-19T21:54:05Z")
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