# Trump's MSG Rally 10/27/2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [October 28, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351 "2024-10-28T14:35:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/81 "2024-10-29T14:40:49Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Make sure to play all the Greatest Hits, let everyone have a solo, do an encore or two, and leave the faithful wanting more.

Love it.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/82 "2024-10-29T15:21:32Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> My mom said she almost feels sorry for the MSG “comedian” bc she thinks his career is over. I hate to disabuse her of the idea…
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> BTW I’m now seeing a few instances of MAGAS suggesting that he was a Democratic plant to sabotage Trump. 🙄

That comic is probably not getting a Netflix or Comedy Central special anytime in the near future, and a few clubs may end up cancelling on him. But, he’s probably already cemented his status as a legend in the MAGA mediasphere, and he’ll be milking that MSG gig for years to come, billing himself as the comedian who dared to outrage the libs. And when every late night comedy show, save for Gutfeld, refuses to touch him with a million-foot pole, this douchebag will also cast himself as a martyr, which will of course get him regular gigs from the RNC, CPAC and other hives of scum and villainy.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/83 "2024-10-29T15:33:04Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I’m glad the OP started this thread, because I too have been wondering what they were thinking with that hot mess. In no way does it improve Trump’s odds of winning, and at absolute best doesn’t hurt (though, I’m pretty sure it does hurt).
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> I notice that over at Fox News there’s a bunch of stories today about Harris’ gaffes, one about her admitting on a hot mic that she’s struggling with male voters (watching them try to make that scandalous is fun), an awkward moment at one of her events, something about Obama saying something dumb.
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> Point is, you should check it out because it looks like a whole page of counter-programming. “Nuh-uh, Trump’s rally wasn’t bad. Harris’ was”

They have Fox News on in the break room at work sometimes, and the spin is astounding. I remember a few months back watching Jesse Watters bitching about how dark and depressing Biden’s speech at the DNC was. Not five minutes later, he plays a clip of Trump saying that you can’t even go to the store anymore without fear of getting shot by some hoodlum.

Even if you agree with their politics, I don’t know how you can take these assholes seriously.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/84 "2024-10-29T16:08:15Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> But, he’s probably already cemented his status as a legend in the MAGA mediasphere

Which is an older crowd that doesn’t attend stand up comedy. And he is already being scape goated as being the reason the MSG event turned into a hatefeast and will likely be further blamed if and when Trump loses. Even if Trump wins this guy is toast because that is the way Trump rewards his true believers.

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/85 "2024-10-29T16:13:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> literally evoke the Nazis of the 1930s.

This came up on my YouTube feed yesterday. It’s an analysis of _ **Cabaret** _, one of the best films of all time IMO, comparing conditions in pre-war Germany with the current situation in the US. The commentator doesn’t mention Trump or MAGA at all, but dwells more on how Germany was just beginning to be more accepting of gays and transsexuals and had a “libertine” social reputation before the Nazis came to power and curb-stomped the country.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cPpwXUZNbNs/maxresdefault.jpg "Cabaret & the Seductive Power of Evil") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPpwXUZNbNs)

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/86 "2024-10-29T16:25:42Z")

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In identifying historical cycles, when revolutionary trends are believed to have gone too far and the pendulum swings to the other direction, it’s called a Thermidor Reaction. (Although when it’s done by a cabal of billionaires meeting over expensive cigars, it should be called a Humidor Reaction).

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/87 "2024-10-29T16:25:56Z")

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the opposite of a nazi has called nyc rally an “absolute love fest”. this is from his remarks from mar a lago.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/88 "2024-10-29T16:59:06Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> the opposite of a nazi has called nyc rally an “absolute love fest”. this is from his remarks from mar a lago

Looks like Minitrue is in full bloom. Let the MAGAsphere Hate Week continue.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/89 "2024-10-29T16:59:22Z")

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The MSG rally was a love fest in the same way that 1/6 was. I do not think that Trump knows what that word means. I’m pretty sure they know they messed up because they are now floating the narrative that the comedian was a Democratic plant Let us not forget, though, all of the other hateful bilge spewed from the other speakers at that rally. Now if Harris can only remember to bring the joy tonight we may be OK.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/90 "2024-10-29T17:20:58Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> The MSG rally was a love fest in the same way that 1/6 was. I do not think that Trump knows what that word means.

Sure he does: people assembled in relatively large numbers to prove their love for and fealty to … Meeeeeee!

It’s not how you or I would define it, but …

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/91 "2024-10-29T17:51:30Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> At this point Trump’s whole campaign strategy seems to be, “I’m rubber, you’re glue.”\* That means they’re playing defense though, so maybe that’s something.
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> \*And racism. And misogyny. Lots and lots of racism and misogyny…

And a fanatical devotion to the Trump.

I’m sorry, I’ll come in again.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/92 "2024-10-29T17:52:40Z")

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If there is any benefit to early voting for Trump, it’s that many ballots were cast before those Puerto Rico comments were made at the MSG rally. Whatever votes have already been cast for Trump, can’t be changed now.

He’ll still lose the election anyway, but this reduced the damage by a little bit for him.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/93 "2024-10-29T18:02:45Z")

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Meh. The early voters are more likely the definite voters. The impact, if there is one, and I think there will be, is on the voters who were undecided about voting, now less likely to bother for Trump, and those now more likely to vote against him instead of staying. A large amount of the Puerto Rican heritage vote often does not bother most times. And they will not be alone.

Those of us who are voting for Harris even more than against Trump are already in the bag.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/94 "2024-10-29T18:04:18Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> He’s really happy with that turnout. That’s what I’m looking at.

Just to put a slight damper on this, he also might be happy with this for non-partisan reasons. As the guy in charge of Georgia elections having a high turnout means he is doing his job well.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/95 "2024-10-29T18:08:59Z")

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It does, but Gabriel Sterling really seemed to be offended at Trump’s actions to corrupt Georgia’s election in 2020, and his anger over it does not appear to have abated.

High turnout means a lot of new voters, and I just haven’t seen Trump’s efforts as having motivated a lot of voters to come out early and vote for him. Kamala Harris’s have, though. Which is why I think Sterling is so happy – and why I am, too.

Now, I’ve hijacked the thread with all this Gabriel Sterling talk way too much. If you want to carry on further discussion, let me know and I’ll start a new thread.

Apologies to @excavating_for_a_mind!

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/96 "2024-10-29T18:16:06Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Meh. The early voters are more likely the definite voters. The impact, if there is one, and I think there will be, is on the voters who were undecided about voting, now less likely to bother for Trump, and those now more likely to vote against him instead of staying.

Anecdote: Watching on CNN an interview with a Puerto Rican man\* who has a large following for a radio show, who said he got a call from one listener who said he’d already voted for Trump, regretted it, and was calling all his family and friends urging them to vote for Harris.

\*Sorry, don’t recall the name.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/97 "2024-10-29T19:22:03Z")

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[“Trump says he didn’t hear New York rally comedian, doesn’t know him.”](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4959053-trump-hinchcliffe-puerto-rico-controversy/) You’ll note he never apologizes or mentions the “jokes.”

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/98 "2024-10-29T19:41:27Z")

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I bet that comedian now knows some people on Trumps staff. Now he does.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/99 "2024-10-29T19:56:17Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> [“Trump says he didn’t hear New York rally comedian, doesn’t know him.”](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4959053-trump-hinchcliffe-puerto-rico-controversy/) You’ll note he never apologizes or mentions the “jokes.”

{something something} “he may have brought me a cup of coffee one time in the White House, I don’t really remember, but he seemed like a nice young man …”

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-msg-rally-10-27-2024/1009351/100 "2024-10-29T20:20:04Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> “Trump says he didn’t hear New York rally comedian, doesn’t know him.”

To no one’s surprise.

Meanwhile every R with a large PR voter demographic in their race is either publicly or privately imploring the campaign for some better reaction even if it is “okay, whoever lined him up was a moron, we aren’t paying for this, are we?”

Which is not going to come.

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