# Trump's neurological health - a rational discussion please

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 2, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379 "2019-07-02T03:10:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/121 "2019-07-24T15:59:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [Like this.](https://thoughtsinflight.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a873ef36970b014e87cbbfac970d-600wi) All he hears are a few key words and his name. :rolleyes:

Ha, I knew before clicking what it would be…

ETA: **carrps** and I had eerily similar responses…

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/122 "2019-07-25T18:57:04Z")

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I don’t know if this was today, and I don’t have the full context, but Trump looks and sounds pretty muddled here as he makes remarks at an honor guard review. He stumbles over “lawmakers”, then seems to go off in a direction only he understands, rambling about 98 or 90…something

> <https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1154461541103575040>

Yesterday I was saying he seemed more coherent. Now I’m back in the “something ain’t right” camp.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/123 "2019-07-25T19:20:12Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> I don’t know if this was today, and I don’t have the full context, but Trump looks and sounds pretty muddled here as he makes remarks at an honor guard review. He stumbles over “lawmakers”, then seems to go off in a direction only he understands, rambling about 98 or 90…something
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> [https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1154461541103575040](https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/status/1154461541103575040)
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> Yesterday I was saying he seemed more coherent. Now I’m back in the “something ain’t right” camp.

WHOA! I never listen to him. I don’t watch any news on TV, and if he comes on NPR in the car I turn off the radio for 20 seconds or so. I can honestly say I have not heard him speak since the debates with Hillary.

This was way weird.

“_Lawmerkers_”?? He’s speaking very slowly and hesitantly and his voice is a bit scratchy.

Looking at the Twitter comments. It certainly could be xanax.

Another Twitter comment: _“And to think, people were questioning Mueller’s mental capacity for not being able to remember specifics about his 400+ page report.”_ No kidding.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/124 "2019-07-25T19:25:36Z")

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The 90, 98, or what? thing was about how many votes the new Secretary of Defense got for his confirmation.

I’m not totally sure I am onboard with assuming a neurological condition here. He’s not smart, he’s a bad public speaker even on his best day, he’s slowing down because of his age, and he has serious personality disorders. Those are all major issues, but not the same as dementia or whatever is being implied.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/125 "2019-07-25T20:12:16Z")

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He also said something that sounded like “combat infantroopen badge” .

> <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154422075345526785>

To be fair, he probably just stumbled over “Combat Infantryman Badge”, getting his wires crossed with “infantryman”, which is not that common a word outside the military, and thinking “troop” belonged in there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/126 "2019-07-25T20:15:57Z")

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Wow. How long before the POTUS shits his pants at the podium?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/127 "2019-07-25T20:33:07Z")

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Won’t matter if he’s wearing his Depends.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/775352963489406976/4KAE9KKM.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/775352963489406976/4KAE9KKM.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/128 "2019-07-25T20:44:40Z")

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No, seriously. I wonder if his people near the podium have a protocol, maybe code named “brown dog” where they’ve discussed how to handle the misfortune of a presidential anal sphincter breach. It happens to people his age, especially when neurological capacity is declining.

In their shoes, I’m thinking, yell, “gun”, then hold your nose and get POTUS to a secure men’s.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/129 "2019-07-25T20:55:37Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Wow. How long before the POTUS shits his pants at the podium?

He’ll blame Obama.

Mitch McConnel, when asked for comment, will go off on a rant about “socialists”

Fox News personalities will do a piece on the lovely scent, color and texture of the Trump feces.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/130 "2019-07-25T21:21:04Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> No, seriously.

I **was** being serious.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/131 "2019-07-25T22:28:12Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He’ll blame Obama.
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> Mitch McConnel, when asked for comment, will go off on a rant about “socialists”
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> Fox News personalities will do a piece on the lovely scent, color and texture of the Trump feces.

Obama did it first! Remember that tan suit? It wasn’t tan in the morning! Why was it OK when Obama shit himself but not when Trump does EXACTLY THE SAME THING???

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/132 "2019-07-25T22:53:59Z")

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and the latest news: Trump speaks in front of a fake seal that mocks him.

> **[Trump's doctored presidential seal leads to firing](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49116539)**
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> Someone is out of a job after a fake seal appeared behind Mr Trump. Can you spot what's wrong?

This appears to be a goof by one of his supporters, who pulled the image off the internet without noticing the fakery.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/133 "2019-07-27T14:16:37Z")

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Trump’s behavior is so bad it’s hard for me to think of anyone I’ve met who acts that way. His behavior is so far out of norm for an adult it’s just pathetic.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/134 "2019-07-27T14:30:24Z")

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Pathetic would be the right word because if you knew someone IRL who was that far gone you’d feel sorry for him and his family.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/135 "2019-07-27T14:57:34Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Pathetic would be the right word because if you knew someone IRL who was that far gone you’d feel sorry for him and his family.

Nearly half of the country are cheering this behavior. And it seems the rest of us sit in stunned silence. Like really finding a turd in the punchbowl. It’s another abomi **nation** every day. Can’t keep up with it.

Well, no. Not exactly. I, myself, am stunned that there doesn’t seem to be a dam thing we can do about it. Used to be that voting counted. Not so much anymore (doesn’t keep me from voting of course).

I do hope the republicans finally get their final Bonnie and Clyde moment. Not with bullets, but with real votes. Bring the whole republican crime spree to a screeching smoking halt. The End.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/136 "2019-08-23T14:53:16Z")

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Mush-[del]brain[/del] mouth is [is at it again](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-speech-veterans-student-debt-isis-a9074261.html).

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/137 "2019-08-23T15:16:06Z")

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If My Beloved caught me talking like that(and I was’t drunk or high as a kite) she would immediately call 911. How brain-damaged does he have to appear to be before the Vice President steps up and does his moral/ethical duty and steps in? Has it gotten to the point that, if he got up there and drooled uncontrollably while attempting to talk, they would just let him continue?

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/138 "2019-08-23T17:04:51Z")

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Trump has hereby ordered American companies to find sources other than China, because he’s a sane and sound one. I don’t know what it will take for Trump supporters to realize they were bamboozled.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/139 "2019-08-23T17:06:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If My Beloved caught me talking like that(and I was’t drunk or high as a kite) she would immediately call 911. How brain-damaged does he have to appear to be before the Vice President steps up and does his moral/ethical duty and steps in? Has it gotten to the point that, if he got up there and drooled uncontrollably while attempting to talk, they would just let him continue?

From a [transcript](http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/the-last-word/2019-08-21) of Wednesday’s Lawrence O’Donnell (about 2/3 of the way down):

> [@](#):
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> … I want to read a couple of tweets today of people who I was impressed by. One is Dr. Eugene Gu, thoughtful observer of our times. He said, we learn in med school that if someone comes to the emergency room calling themselves the King of Israel and the second coming of God, that patient is either high on drugs or is having a psychotic break and needs to be promptly evaluated with a Tox screen and psychiatric consult.
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> And he was replied to by Maureen Tracey who said, Dr. Gu, I worked as a nurse for more than 40 years, there is no way Donald Trump would not have been referred repeatedly to psych!, and if his docs had not been accommodating they would have found themselves in hot water. This guy is not mentally stable from all outside appearances, and there are no serious defenses by Trump supporters against those statements.

“No serious defenses” other than the (alternative) fact that he’s The Chosen One.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-neurological-health-a-rational-discussion-please/836379/140 "2019-08-23T17:11:56Z")

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Chosen by Loki, perhaps?

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