# Trump's new cabinet **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 6, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799 "2024-11-06T16:52:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/461 "2024-11-24T15:24:58Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > The cabinet is kind of irrelevant, because pretty much everything in the execute branch IS Trump. I disagree. In his last term, Trump asked his AG to lock certain people up, and the AG would not do it. Rubio is not going to go along with Ukraine being disarmed, which is what Putin is likely to insist upon. At least — that’s my hope. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/462 "2024-11-24T15:45:53Z")
Exactly. The cult will believe that he needed to nuke Estonia. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/463 "2024-11-24T17:02:46Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Who’s the one on the left next to Voldemort? > > I see the Eye of Sauron, the clown from _It_, and the clown from South Africa. Far left appears to be an Uruk-Hai orc from the _Lord of the Rings_ movies. From left to right, it looks like: - Uruk-Hai - Voldemort - A Nazgul (also from Lord of the Rings) - Joker - Sauron (the eye on the tower in the back) - Pennywise - Darth Vader - Musk - The Death Star - A Xenomorph (from Alien) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/464 "2024-11-24T18:01:58Z")
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/465 "2024-11-24T19:31:36Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Far left appears to be an Uruk-Hai orc from the _Lord of the Rings_ movies. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/466 "2024-11-24T22:23:27Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > If the voters voted for him to do all this, he is doing his job That’s a big “if” there. Trump lied a hell of a lot, and we now have evidence that a lot of his voters fundamentally didn’t understand things like what tariffs are, and that repealing “Obamacare” is actually the same as repealing the ACA. So what did they _really_ vote for? A mandate built on lies is no real mandate at all. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/467 "2024-11-24T23:44:26Z")
Trump’s Surgeon General pick is of course a Fox News contributor, Dr. Janette Nesheiwat. “She’s an author of “_Beyond the Stethoscope: Miracles in Medicine,”_ which is touted as offering stories of miraculous recoveries, experiences in the ER, and global medical missions that illuminate the transformative power of prayer and unwavering dedication to healing and service, according to a description of the book by its publisher.” > **[Dr. Janette Nesheiwat, Fox News medical contributor, picked as US Surgeon...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/22/trump-fox-news-surgeon-general/76510351007/)** > > Her book illuminates the transformative power of prayer and unwavering dedication to healing and service. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/468 "2024-11-25T00:10:49Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Trump’s Surgeon General pick is of course a Fox News contributor, Dr. Janette Nesheiwat. I do not usually criticize mainstream media, but your USA Today article seems surprisingly friendly to its subject. The story mentions where she went to undergraduate college, and where she did her residency, and mentions that she did some sort of rotation at Johns Hopkins, but fails to mention the for-profit medical school she attended, the American University of the Caribbean. . Do I have a problem with graduates of such schools going on to deserved distinguished careers? Of course not. But the article seems slanted to make her look highly qualified. USA Today treats her book as if it is for sale. But it has a release date of December 17, 2024 and is published by a conservative/religious publisher. Not all books that are scheduled to be released in the future actually appear, and I see no evidence there is an advanced copy. Lastly, something about the mention of Johns Hopkins (“completed ER rotations with Johns Hopkins University”) does not sound right. The Johns Hopkins Hospital? Doubt it. I wonder if it was a hospital with an insignificant indirect link to that university. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/469 "2024-11-25T00:26:13Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I do not usually criticize mainstream media, but your USA Today article seems surprisingly friendly to its subject. You’re quite right. I heard about the pick and just chose the first article that caught my eye. Apologies. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/470 "2024-11-25T00:51:43Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > You’re quite right. I heard about the pick and just chose the first article that caught my eye. Apologies. No biggie of course. If it was a Biden administration nominee for Surgeon General, and the USA Today reporter relied on biographical information passed on by the nominee, it wouldn’t be outstanding journalism, but they’d probably be pretty safe. With a Trump nominee, it is a lot harder to write the article, because everything they say needs to be verified. Mentioned in the Wikipedia bio, but not the USA Today article, is that Dr. Nesheiwat has her picture on the bottles of overpriced vitamins: > **[BC Boost - BOOST & Strengthen your Immune System](https://bcboost.com/)** > > BC Boost is a doctor formulated all natural vitamins and minerals supplement to strengthen your immune system > [@](#): > > I was always telling my patients who were unwell drink some tea, take some vitamin b12 and vitamin C. I found myself repeating my all natural regimen to my patients over and over “take some B12 and C to Boost” your immune system. Thats how I came up with BC Boost. Although I am a doctor, I am not quick to prescribe drugs unless I feel necessary as we want to put into our body the most natural wholesome ingredients. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/471 "2024-11-25T00:54:22Z")
So a vitamin pill is among “the most natural wholesome ingredients”? And BTW, why do people still think that Vitamin C is somehow the thing to cure illness? I thought we stopped believing that decades ago. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/472 "2024-11-25T01:39:51Z")
I just looked at the Wikipedia articles on recent previous Surgeon Generals. They are in a whole different category of doctor compared to this nominee. The Trump 45 Surgeon General was not as distinguished as some others, but he looks at least in the ballpark of the kind of person who might be in such a post: > **[Jerome Adams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Adams)** > > Jerome Michael Adams (born September 22, 1974) is an American anesthesiologist and a former vice admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps who served as the 20th surgeon general of the United States from September 5, 2017, until January 20, 2021. Prior to becoming Surgeon General, he served as the Indiana state health commissioner, from 2014 to 2017. > On June 29, 2017, President Donald Trump nominated Adams to become Surgeon General of the United States. Adams was confirmed b... This article Dr. Adams co-authored is serious, interesting, and confirms my skepticism over the patient satisfaction questionnaires now common in American medicine: > **[Are Pain Management Questions in Patient Satisfaction Surveys Driving the...](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4880256/)** A search at [scholar.google.com](http://scholar.google.com) seems to indicate that Janette Nesheiwat, Trump’s nominee, has never published a peer reviewed article. A board certified doc picked at random would probably be a better choice. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/473 "2024-11-25T01:45:26Z")
The US Surgeon General is expected to both talk on public health issues to Americans as well as to head the public health service, a staff of 6,500 people. That’s probably larger than any individual hospital in America but not as large as some of the hospital systems. So some management background would be helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/474 "2024-11-25T08:00:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > As for whether the Senate will go in the direction ‘_we’ve gotten rid of Gaetz and Trump is already mad so we may as well say what we really think of the others,_’ or instead ‘_we’ve gotten rid of Gaetz and that proves we’re a Co-Equal Branch, so now we can just knuckle-under on all Trump’s other picks_’…well, I’d bet on the second one. The thing is… Donald Trump is a bit of a lame duck now, isn’t he? He won’t be running for president again, so as far as the Senate Republicans are concerned, he can’t do much for them in the future. They also might suspect that he’d going to screw up the country, so it can’t hurt to set up the groundwork for running on anti-Trump platform in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/475 "2024-11-25T10:26:02Z")
He could be the kingmaker for the next guy and anoint them as Trump 2 More Fascism Boogaloo. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/476 "2024-11-25T10:42:26Z")
Will that bring people out to the polls? Because that’s what they really care about. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/477 "2024-11-25T11:01:53Z")
No, they’d just promise that the New Trump would carry on the policies of the old. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/478 "2024-11-25T11:39:26Z")
Bold of you to assume that senators would put policies ahead of their own power and money. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/479 "2024-11-25T13:48:09Z")
Well, the policies that ensure their power and money, anyway. Why not look like you’re doing your job AND get some sweet extra money as well? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/480 "2024-11-25T14:15:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Will that bring people out to the polls? Because that’s what they really care about. Trump loudly proclaiming them traitors will bring his people to the polls in their next primary election. Which – for the majority of Republican Senators – is functionally the only election that matters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799.md?page=25)