# Trump's new cabinet

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 6, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799 "2024-11-06T16:52:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/601 "2024-12-08T16:50:24Z")

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Take Mike McCarthy.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/602 "2024-12-08T18:54:19Z")

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…please!

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/603 "2024-12-08T21:27:43Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Six years ago, there were concerns about Tulsi Gabbard so serious that the Ds and Rs were both concerned she would leak info about a Syrian defector to the Assad regime.

Of course Trump sees ‘a traitorous orientation to the USA’ as a plus. And most of today’s Congressional Republicans are pretty darned okay with it, too!

And Gabbard is definitely going to need that Cabinet job now. Whatever she was being paid by Assad to support him is no longer a part of her income.

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**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/604 "2024-12-10T12:39:43Z")

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Did Trump ever get cleared by the FBI? before he gets to appoint all these people.  
And isn’t he disqualified to be sworn in?  
“… who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies…”  
(part of 14th amendment)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/605 "2024-12-10T13:01:45Z")

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No one can decide who has the authority to enforce the 14th Amendment, unless he is impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/606 "2024-12-10T13:12:51Z")

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Actually, the Supreme Court decided who had the authority to enforce the Insurrection Clause in _Trump v. Anderson_ – it’s Congress. The ruling found that neither the states nor the courts can declare a candidate ineligible for office under Section 3 unless an Act of Congress explicitly grants them that power.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/607 "2024-12-10T14:48:50Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Actually, the Supreme Court decided who had the authority to enforce the Insurrection Clause in _Trump v. Anderson_ – it’s Congress.

And Congress has done so with 18 USC 2383

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/608 "2024-12-10T17:18:01Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> No one can decide who has the authority to enforce the 14th Amendment, unless he is impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate.

Not correct. [Couy Griffin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couy_Griffin) was removed from office and banned for life from running or holding office on the order of a judge. He wasn’t impeached.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/609 "2024-12-10T17:24:28Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Not correct. [Couy Griffin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couy_Griffin) was removed from office and banned for life from running or holding office on the order of a judge. He wasn’t impeached.

In accordance with state law for a state office. I assume Fear\_Itself was referring to Federal office but as pointed out, they are still wrong as a conviction on the federal insurrection law carries with it an automatic ban from federal office.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/610 "2024-12-10T17:43:01Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> In accordance with state law for a state office

In accordance with Constitutional law, and what makes you think it only applies to state offices?

[Here’s the court ruling](https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/D101CV202200473-griffin.pdf).

“Mr Griffin became Constitutionally Disqualified From Any Federal or State Office Including His Current Office Effective Jan 6th 2021” (page 38)

He can never again run in his state, or any other state, or for federal office.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/611 "2024-12-10T17:51:34Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> In accordance with Constitutional law, and what makes you think it only applies to state offices?

The recent ruling Trump v Colorado (or whatever it was called)

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/612 "2024-12-11T01:03:33Z")

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Kimberly Guilfoyle, Ambassador to Greece.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/613 "2024-12-11T02:40:19Z")

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Like an idiot, I googled it. I guess if he wants to put his people in positions where they probably won’t completely screw the pooch, humor him. But in “the eyes of the world” the US can’t help but look stupider by the day.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/614 "2024-12-11T02:47:35Z")

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I assumed Kimberly Guilfoyle was Greek-American, and that’s why the nomination but, Googling, her mother was Puerto Rican and her father Irish. Not always but often the US choses an ambassador from those from that country.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/615 "2024-12-11T02:54:42Z")

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I would have guessed George Papadopoulos.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/616 "2024-12-11T02:56:40Z")

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I wonder if whatever happened to her face is reversible on the off chance she might want to assume her new position looking at least vaguely humanoid.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/617 "2024-12-11T05:11:54Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Kimberly Guilfoyle, Ambassador to Greece.

Since it’s become clear that [Donnie Boy Junior has moved on to a socialite with a more normal face](https://www.miamiherald.com/miami-com/miami-com-news/article296867084.html), the old man needs to pay her off to go away.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/618 "2024-12-11T06:47:53Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> [Donnie Boy Junior has moved on to a socialite with a more normal face](https://www.miamiherald.com/miami-com/miami-com-news/article296867084.html), the old man needs to pay her off to go away.

Yeah, that definitely looks like a negotiated break-up. All of their relationships are just as transactional as everything else in their lives. It’s so pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/619 "2024-12-11T13:21:18Z")

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Related story: Lara Trump has resigned as co-chair of the RNC, and Trump is pressuring DeSantis to name her to fill Rubio’s Senate seat.

[Lara Trump announces she is stepping down as RNC co-chair amidst talk she may be up for Florida Senate seat | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lara-trump-announces-she-stepping-down-rnc-co-chair-amidst-talk-she-may-up-florida-senate-seat)

[Trump pressing DeSantis to name Lara Trump as Rubio’s Senate successor: source](https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-pressing-desantis-to-name-lara-trump-as-rubio-s-senate-successor-source/ar-AA1vCulE?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-new-cabinet/1009799/620 "2024-12-11T15:31:19Z")

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Does Donald Trump own a horse? This couldn’t get more Caligula-ish any other way.

(Actually, I went to check Wikipedia to make sure I remembered the right emperor. And there I read that he was indeed

> an insane, murderous [tyrant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrant) who demanded and received worship as a living god, humiliated his Senate, and planned to make his horse a consul.

So far we have everything except the horse.)

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