# Trump's next publicity stunt: Mt. Rushmore on or about the 4th of July

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 28, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477 "2020-06-28T00:58:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/1 "2020-06-28T00:58:49Z")

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I’m hearing conflicting things about this, but yeah, he wants to make an appearance there. Maybe he thinks the fireworks will carve his likeness into the cliff.

> **[Trump plans military flyover at Mount Rushmore on July 3](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/trump-mount-rushmore-military-flyover-298870)**
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> Flyovers are also in the works for July 4 in Washington.

Gee whiz, for how many reasons is this a bad idea?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/2 "2020-06-28T01:04:31Z")

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I endorse the plan if he jumps out of the plane. Sans parachute.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/3 "2020-06-28T04:12:28Z")

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This kind of plan frankly reeks of desperation to me in a way even the previous military parades did not, even beyond the desire for ego stroking.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/4 "2020-06-28T07:01:13Z")

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I don’t get the furor over the Rushmore plan, it’s not like this is the first time there’s been a Mount Rushmore Air Force One photo-op.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/5 "2020-06-28T07:27:40Z")

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Trump shouldn’t be inviting comparisons to great Presidents.

Hell, Trump should probably avoid standing next to a portrait of Millard Fillmore.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/6 "2020-06-28T08:37:49Z")

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It’s a forested area. Fireworks will create a major fire danger there. Trump doesn’t care.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/7 "2020-06-28T11:11:37Z")

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The ONLY thing Trump cares about is Trump, with a side dish of “re-election”.

I hope somebody will be standing by with a mop and bucket on Election Day just in case his head explodes when he loses.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/8 "2020-06-28T13:11:06Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> It’s a forested area. Fireworks will create a major fire danger there. Trump doesn’t care.

Yet another infathomably ignorant thing he said on that matter:  
_Dismissing concerns that the fireworks posed an environmental threat, Trump said, “what can burn? It’s stone,” adding that “nobody knew why, they just said environmental reasons.”_  
[https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/trump-rushmore-fireworks-fact-check/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/trump-rushmore-fireworks-fact-check/index.html)

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/9 "2020-06-28T15:05:36Z")

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Others expressed the same sentiment, but Bob Dylan said it best,  
“Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings.”

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/10 "2020-06-28T18:45:53Z")

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Nah, just ponchos and trash bags, like a Gallagher show.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/11 "2020-06-28T19:07:53Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> It’s a forested area. Fireworks will create a major fire danger there.

Not if everybody sweeps around the base of every tree first.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/12 "2020-06-28T19:13:58Z")

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I wish the AF would tell him, “Sorry, Mr. President, we didn’t have any planes available for the flyover because they were all busy strafing CHAZ.”

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/13 "2020-06-28T22:04:28Z")

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Hey! Don’t knock Millard. Didn’t he get indoor plumbing in the White House?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/14 "2020-06-28T22:16:03Z")

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It’s true. Trump’s no Fillmore.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/15 "2020-06-28T22:59:30Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Others expressed the same sentiment, but Bob Dylan said it best,  
> “Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings.”

“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel” - Samual Johnson, 7 April 1775.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/16 "2020-06-29T01:24:42Z")

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Like I said, Bob said it better!😁

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/17 "2020-06-29T08:13:36Z")

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Let Trump do whatever he wants.

Biden and his VP nom should just do what he did the other day in PA.

Come out once a week, stand at a lectern, and give a 20 minute speech. Without mentioning Trump, riff off of whatever idiocy Trump accomplished in the previous week.

He should also start speaking as if he’s already been elected. Use the present tense instead of future.

Don’t say “If elected, I will…”

Say, “I’m calling on Congress to…”

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/18 "2020-06-29T11:18:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s true. Trump’s no Fillmore.

Mallard Fillmore, maybe.

Don’t care about the gratuitous photo op overall - we’ve had plenty of those over the centuries. I’m half-tempted to say that if he wants to go ahead with the fireworks display despite the advice of experts, he should - if it sets the forest on fire, it’d be the perfect metaphor for his presidency.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/19 "2020-07-03T23:46:40Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wQpWydz7J1Y/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH LIVE: Trump holds July 4 celebration at Mt. Rushmore") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQpWydz7J1Y)

Live event - super boring - I would want to leave.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-next-publicity-stunt-mt-rushmore-on-or-about-the-4th-of-july/913477/20 "2020-07-04T00:02:41Z")

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I was hoping someone would start a thread on this. I don’t plan to watch (weak stomach), but if someone wants to take one for the team and report, I’d be grateful.

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