# Trump's niece putting out a book **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 15, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692 "2020-06-15T11:38:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/21 "2020-06-30T20:33:54Z")
There’s some things that I don’t understand about this court case. I understand why the first judge said he didn’t have jurisdiction. But I don’t get the whole “agreement/contract in perpetuity” thing (I thought the US did not allow that) that the Trump clan seems to be saying exists. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/22 "2020-06-30T21:09:28Z")
perpetuity is only an issue when someone dies. It does not apply in this case because his niece is still alive. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/23 "2020-06-30T22:32:31Z")
So glad I don’t have a niece. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/24 "2020-07-02T01:13:33Z")
Restraining order was lifted so the book is coming out. I would think it comes out next week. [https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-01\_Decision\_SimonSchuster\_TRO.pdf](https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-01_Decision_SimonSchuster_TRO.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/25 "2020-07-02T05:08:42Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Restraining order was lifted so the book is coming out. I would think it comes out next week. The ruling strikes me as a bit contrived and lame, like the judge found a way to rule the way he wanted to rule. But hey, if it gets this book out, that’s fine with me! What he ruled was that Ms. Trump’s confidentiality agreement stands, and binds her and all her agents, employees, etc. But he also ruled that Simon and Schuster, the publisher, is NOT an agent, employee, etc., of Ms. Trump, and also is NOT a party to the confidentiality agreement, and therefore the restraining order is not binding on Simon and Schuster. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/26 "2020-07-02T07:20:51Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > > > Restraining order was lifted so the book is coming out. I would think it comes out next week. > > > > > [https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-01\_Decision\_SimonSchuster\_TRO.pdf](https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-01_Decision_SimonSchuster_TRO.pdf) > > The ruling strikes me as a bit contrived and lame, like the judge found a way to rule the way he wanted to rule. But hey, if it gets this book out, that’s fine with me! FTR, the book is not scheduled for release until July 28. If I were Simon & Schuster, I’d consider accelerating that, or at least getting advance copies out to the media, though it does appear that the matter of publication is settled, though Mary Trump herself may still be subject to civil litigation. Suing people is, after all, the cheeto’s favorite hobby. The best one so far I think was the $5 million lawsuit against Bill Maher for suggesting that Trump was the offspring of an orangutan. That one I believe at some point got thrown out of court, and I have this picture in my mind of the judge going back to his chambers giggling to himself and thinking that it was probably true. Quite frankly I think the Bolton book is much more important and relevant, as much as I despise the man himself, because it details Trump’s incompetence and malfeasance in office, whereas this one is more of a biography describing how he came to be such a greedy self-obsessed asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/27 "2020-07-02T13:55:24Z")
I think more people will be repulsed on a more visceral level by stories of Trump being a jerk to his family than will be dissuaded by stories of his “incompetence and malfeasance in office” tho. One is something familiar, the other is something abstract (and remote, for most people). ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/28 "2020-07-02T14:40:33Z")
People who will get upset by his behavior have had 5 years for that to happen. I think all of that is “baked in” to his approval. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/29 "2020-07-06T17:28:06Z")
Book is out next week , 2 weeks early > ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/30 "2020-07-07T15:39:45Z")
She is claiming Trump was a victim of child abuse from his father. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/31 "2020-07-07T15:49:24Z")
The book probably reveals little in the way of new information. Everyone knows that Trump is a fraudulent businessman, a crook, a liar, and a generally shitty person. It just didn’t matter before because, as I’ve explained, Trump was their political Instacart: he delivered the goody bag of racist, misogynistic shit to their doorstep. But now that at least some of these shitty people are actually watching family members die or actually dying themselves of a disease he refers to as a ‘hoax,’ it seems that they’re less interested in keeping America white, er, great, and just interested in survival. Incompetence on a massive scale in a life and death situation has a way of changing hearts and minds, as I’ve tried to point out (albeit harshly at times) over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/32 "2020-07-07T17:39:29Z")
[Katie Phang Tweet](https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1280548979575525378) > Mary Trump’s Book: “As a high school student Trump paid someone to take the SAT on his behalf. The high score the earned him admission to the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton business school.” Also includes a link to a NYT article. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/33 "2020-07-07T17:50:21Z")
If Trump is suing to stop publication, then we know everything in it is true. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/34 "2020-07-07T18:51:17Z")
Longer excerpt in the Daily Fail: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8498179/Donald-Trump-suffered-child-abuse-hands-father-niece-claims-book.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8498179/Donald-Trump-suffered-child-abuse-hands-father-niece-claims-book.html) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/35 "2020-07-07T19:30:44Z")
Pretty sure when Trump was in HS they did not check IDs for the SAT so it was easy to pay someone to take the SAT for you. And if they did check IDs a fake ID was not hard to get. College athletes also paid people to take tests for the them. He cheats at golf even when he’s playing a kid. That sums up his life . ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/36 "2020-07-07T19:52:00Z")
Pre-order from amazon. To be released on ~~Bastard~~ Bastille Day - July 14. [https://smile.amazon.com/Too-Much-Never-Enough-Dangerous/dp/1982141468/ref=sr\_1\_1?dchild=1&keywords=mary+trump&qid=1594150744&sr=8-1](https://smile.amazon.com/Too-Much-Never-Enough-Dangerous/dp/1982141468/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mary+trump&qid=1594150744&sr=8-1) One of the complaints about applying the label/diagnosis of narcissism to DJT has been that one can’t diagnose from afar, i.e., without meeting and knowing the person. So all of the doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, and social workers who have thus labeled him are full of crap, 'cause they’ve never had him on the couch (as it were). The fact that DJT puts it all out there and doesn’t know the meaning of an unexpressed thought, notwithstanding, Mary HAS met him, KNOWS him, and is in fact, herself a clinical psychologist. So her well-informed, professional opinion/diagnosis should satisfy that particular segment of critics, although, of course, it won’t. > Ms. Trump, a clinical psychologist, asserts that her uncle has all nine clinical criteria for being a narcissist. And yet, she notes, even that label does not capture the full array of the president’s psychological troubles. > > “The fact is,” she writes, “Donald’s pathologies are so complex and his behaviors so often inexplicable that coming up with an accurate and comprehensive diagnosis would require a full battery of psychological and neurophysical tests that he’ll never sit for.” > [Cite](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/mary-trump-book.html) I predict dissertations will be written on the trump brain (the organ, that is, once it’s in a jar of formaldehyde). Ironically, the man who was too lazy and dishonest to acquire a legitimate degree will be the platform upon which future researchers achieve theirs. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/37 "2020-07-07T20:28:31Z")
When I first heard about this book I wasn’t especially interested; I assumed it would be a cheap piece of sensationalism by a cynical family member out for a quick buck. However, from what I’ve read of Mary Trump’s background, she is deserving of respect. That being the case, I’ll probably read the book. I will say the Trump administration has expanded my reading a bit. Usually I’m a curl-up-with-yummy-fiction gal, but since Trump was elected I’ve read the recent books by Al Franken, Jeff Flake, and James Comey, to name the ones that come immediately to mind. (I tried to read “Devil’s Bargain” by Joshua Green, but it made me so sad I had to stop.) I’ll probably read the Bolton book too, though I am sympathetic to those who don’t want their purchase to benefit such an egregious character. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/38 "2020-07-07T20:39:09Z")
Well, just it time for Labor Day you can add a [new polemic about Melanie Trump](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/ex-melania-trump-adviser-stephanie-winston-wolkoff-new-book.html) to your reading list. > Winston Wolkoff — a former PR manager for _Vogue_ who once produced the Met Gala — first became friends with Melania Trump 15 years ago, the year that the Slovenian model married the current president. Despite this long relationship, the Daily Beast [reports](https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-melania-trump-confidant-stephanie-winston-wolkoff-to-release-explosive-tell-all-before-the-election?ref=scroll) that “people with knowledge of the project say the content of the book is largely negative and that the manuscript heavily trashes the first lady.” I can almost hear Melanie’s team of lawyers getting a stern Slovenian haranguing demanding issuance of threatening cease & desist letters. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/39 "2020-07-07T20:44:04Z")
That might be worthwhile, assuming it’s reasonably restrained and fact-based. Ordinarily a book about someone whose only claim to fame is just that they ended up as First Lady would not be of interest, but if the book offers some genuine insight into what makes Melania tick I’d probably make an exception. I am among the many who have wondered why on earth anyone would debase themselves by dating, much less marrying, a pig like Trump. Surely there are other rich men out there with more class, if all she wanted was a husband to keep her in furs and diamonds. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692/40 "2020-07-07T20:49:29Z")
Would be interesting to see the prenup and the changes she made to it after he took office . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-niece-putting-out-a-book/855692.md?page=3)