# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2305 "2016-03-04T12:37:33Z")

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> [@Grsz11](#):
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> I’m convinced anybody who votes for Trump is mentally ill. Do we really need a president who insists on defending his penis size?

“No need to show us the Long Form, Mr. Trump; no need at all…”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2306 "2016-03-04T12:41:14Z")

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So much for the “short-fingered” part. Now, about “vulgarian” …

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2307 "2016-03-04T13:01:10Z")

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> [@Grsz11](#):
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> I’m convinced anybody who votes for Trump is mentally ill. Do we really need a president who insists on defending his penis size?

LBJ was (in)famous for having a giant schlong & occasionally whipping it out to prove a point.

What’s different is that in 1965 that stuff didn’t end up on national TV. It was kept private amongst the insiders. It only got exposed to the rest of us in post-mortem biographies.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2308 "2016-03-04T15:11:00Z")

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Ehh-heh-heh. You said _exposed_.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2309 "2016-03-04T17:08:40Z")

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Now it’ll only be the country that gets the shaft.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2310 "2016-03-04T19:00:31Z")

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[Trump’s cancelled his appearance at CPAC tomorrow.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/04/3756772/trump-cpac-reactions/)

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> Sam Greenfeld, a 20-year-old student at the University of Tampa, added that he doesn’t understand why Trump would back out of a conference with so many young attendees when the youth vote is vital to his campaign.
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> “I’m personally glad he’s not going to be here because I don’t like him very much, but that’s very surprising news,” he said. “I think Trump obviously is very emotionally sensitive. He tries to be a tough guy but he’s a pansy. The polls and the crowd here seem like it’s a majority Cruz fans, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump just got scared.”
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> Rick Collin, a Congressional staffer from Bismark, North Dakota, felt similarly.
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> “Maybe he was afraid he’d be booed,” he said. “There are a lot of people here who are not happy with Trump.”

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2311 "2016-03-04T19:11:54Z")

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Trump cancels his speech at the Ted Cruz fan club. Pansy or just doesn’t want to waste his time? I’m going with the latter.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2312 "2016-03-04T19:16:59Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Pansy or just doesn’t want to waste his time? I’m going with the latter.

Honestly, I’m not sure Trump is capable of _handling_ a crowd of people booing him where he doesn’t have the ability to have them thrown out or roughed up.

I imagine him going into a full-on blue streak against the crowd and then insisting on Fox News later that night that everybody there loved him and the reporters were being unfair to him and only showing the losers and morons.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2313 "2016-03-04T19:24:05Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Honestly, I’m not sure Trump is capable of _handling_ a crowd of people booing him where he doesn’t have the ability to have them thrown out or roughed up.

Are you kidding? He eats it up, and it plays right into his hand:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TG6_5m8RIIg/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Elicits Boos After Spat With Bush [Republican Debate Highlights]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG6_5m8RIIg)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2314 "2016-03-04T19:31:58Z")

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[quote=“Hank\_Beecher, post:2313, topic:729828”]

Are you kidding? He eats it up, and it plays right into his hand:

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Are we watching the same video? 'Cause it looks to me like Donald got schlonged there.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2315 "2016-03-04T20:18:47Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Ehh-heh-heh. You said _exposed_.

And not by accident I can assure you, Mandrake! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2316 "2016-03-05T04:02:23Z")

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After taking criticism for saying the US should waterboard suspected terrorists and kill their families, Trump has “clarified” that he would never order the military to violate international law.

> **[Donald Trump reverses position on torture, killing terrorists' families | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/donald-trump-reverses-on-torture/index.html)**
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> Republican front-runner Donald Trump said Friday that he would not order the U.S. military to violate international laws, a stark reversal.

So… He’s ready to turn over our sovereignty to international courts!!!1! He’s soft on terrorists!!!

Right?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2317 "2016-03-05T04:07:05Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> After taking criticism for saying the US should waterboard suspected terrorists and kill their families, Trump has “clarified” that he would never order the military to violate international law.
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/donald-trump-reverses-on-torture/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/04/politics/donald-trump-reverses-on-torture/index.html)
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> So… He’s ready to turn over our sovereignty to international courts!!!1! He’s soft on terrorists!!!
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> Right?

I’ve never heard him use the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism”. I wonder why Cruz has never called him on it?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2318 "2016-03-05T04:23:11Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> After taking criticism for saying the US should waterboard suspected terrorists and kill their families, Trump has “clarified” that he would never order the military to violate international law.

Worse than that for the ones that dismiss international law, Trump was telling all that he was going to violate US law.

> **[Fact-Check: Could The Next President Bring Back Waterboarding?](https://www.npr.org/2016/02/13/466544830/fact-check-could-the-next-president-bring-back-waterboarding)**
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> Ted Cruz said he doesn't consider waterboarding torture, and Donald Trump said he would bring back "worse" methods. We break down whether that would be an option under the law.

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> President Obama signed an executive order in 2009 banning the use of torture by any government agency. Last year, Congress codified that ban into law in the National Defense Authorization Act. So, if waterboarding is considered torture, it would take an act of Congress to allow its use as an interrogation technique, since that’s now forbidden under current U.S. law.

What a flapdoodler frail fingered fiddle-sticker flip flopper Trump is.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2319 "2016-03-05T04:25:51Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Worse than that for the ones that dismiss international law, Trump was telling all that he was going to violate US law.
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> [Fact-Check: Could The Next President Bring Back Waterboarding? : NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/02/13/466544830/fact-check-could-the-next-president-bring-back-waterboarding)  
> What a flapdoodler frail fingered fiddle-sticker flip flopper Trump is.

Vulgarian without actually being vulgarian. I applaud you, sir. 🙂

(Odd how the spellcheck here calls vulgarian a misspelling.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2320 "2016-03-05T19:18:08Z")

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Thanks, I do try. 🙂

Everyone has to remember that success in the dungeon that is the Republican primaries does not mean that the supporters of Trump will then be more numerous than the supporters for the Democrats in the general election, some attempt to make a big to do about turnout for the Republicans as decisive, but I found that that is not a good enough predictor for the turnout in general elections.

> **[Why Democrats (probably) shouldn't worry about record Republican primary turnout](https://www.vox.com/2016/2/24/11109764/republican-turnout-democrats-2016)**
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> Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology,...

As for the flapdoodler, his pants on fire lies may not have any effect with his supporters, but it is really silly to think that lies like this one will not have any effect on the mayority of the people that are not supporting Trump.

> **[Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/)**
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> During the televised press conference in which he announced his tax plan, Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Tru

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> Our ruling
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> Trump keeps repeating that the unemployment rate may be as high as 42 percent. But getting a percentage that high requires believing that being a high school, college or graduate student, a senior citizen, a stay-at-home parent, a job-training participant, or having a disability is no excuse for not holding down a job, or for working less than 40 hours in a week. The highest alternative unemployment-rate measure we could come up with that had any credibility was 16.4 percent, and even that exaggerated figure is only about one-third of the way to Trump’s 42 percent. We rate his claim Pants on Fire.

The result is that while many followers of Trump will ignore it, the reality is that a lot more people will not. And Trump just found out that his pants on fire lie is even more so now:

> **[Jobs Report: 242,000 Jobs Added In February, Unemployment Rate Steady At 4.9%](https://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2016/03/04/jobs-report-242000-jobs-added-in-february-unemployment-rate-steady-at-4-9/#39da603634b4)**
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> The latest labor market reckoning from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows strong job growth but a decline in wages.

> [@](#):
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> Jobs Report: 242,000 Jobs Added In February, Unemployment Rate Steady At 4.9%

And another thing: It is really sick to me that a good number of Republicans like Trump deny that many Americans are getting jobs or want to see many lose jobs to get a good chance to win in November. Like FOX news, the game is to minimize or even attempt to discredit the numbers and the good news.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2321 "2016-03-05T19:30:52Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> And another thing: It is really sick to me that a good number of Republicans like Trump deny that many Americans are getting jobs or want to see many lose jobs to get a good chance to win in November. Like FOX news, the game is to minimize or even attempt to discredit the numbers and the good news.

[Trump is happy to see jobs lost as long as he “wins”.](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-gloats-after-massive-macys-jobs-cut-2016-1)

> [@](#):
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> Trump, the Republican presidential front-runner, declared on Twitter that the company’s cratering stock was “another win for Trump!”
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> He also repeated a call for his supporters to boycott the “very disloyal” department store:

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> Trump had a high-profile feud with Macy’s shortly after he launched his presidential campaign in June with a fiery campaign speech in which he accused the Mexican government of sending rapists and murderers across the border.
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> Macy’s was among several corporations to sever financial ties with Trump amid the resulting firestorm. The store said it would phase out its Trump-branded ties, dress shirts, and “Success” fragrance.

Fun fact: Produced in China.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2322 "2016-03-05T22:34:36Z")

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How do you all think a general election Trump will run and act, in contrast to primary Trump? Will he try to moderate, as mainstream Republican candidates tend to come? Can he? Will he count on the short memories of the public to make non-hardcore supporters forget his previous statements?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2323 "2016-03-05T22:42:35Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> How do you all think a general election Trump will run and act, in contrast to primary Trump? Will he try to moderate, as mainstream Republican candidates tend to come? Can he?

I don’t think he can. The primary season has amplified the blowhard asshole in him, and I don’t think it can go back in the tube. He has always been a celebrity glutton, but the primary season has swelled his ego like never before, and he won’t take any advice to tone it down. He is an addict now, and if anything, he will amp it up to eleven against Hillary.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2324 "2016-03-05T22:44:24Z")

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In an upset of poll predictions, NBC News has called Kansas for Ted Cruz. Shades of things to come?

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