# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2405 "2016-03-12T10:48:17Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Who’s stupid enough to hold an anti-Trump rally anyway? What’s the upside there?
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> Are you trying to convince Trump supporters that they’re assholes and you’re offended? They’ll be proud of that. They want that.
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> Are you trying to bolster Trump’s message that liberals are trying to silence him because he’s telling hard truths? Good job, you played into his message.
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> Are you trying to make the mistreatment of people at his rallies not seem so bad by giving the impression that there are troublemakers that attend them? Great.
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> There’s no upside to it. You’re not going to gain anything by doing it. You can only lose. Why the fuck would you do it?

The upside (perhaps) is that Trump is destroying the Republican party, and this should be encouraged. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2406 "2016-03-12T10:58:24Z")

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He was doing a fine enough job on his own. This just makes it look like he has a point. He was a completely fucking clownish non-victim with his “they’re trying to silence me!” nonsense. Now someone actually tried to silence him.

The guy was a joke. He’s got his 40% of republican primary voter hateful asshole support, and no one else likes him. But you make him look like the victim, you make him look like he may actually have a point, and suddenly his support starts widening, and people start voting for him just to spite what they see as liberal hypocrites.

Trump is furiously masturbating right now as we speak. This is literally the best thing that could’ve happened for his campaign. The dumb fucks did their best to bolster Trump - not just amongst a narrow slice of the GOP electorate but among everyone.

The only thing I can think of that explains this that’s more evil than stupid is if this is sort of like riot tourism, like you saw after the Michael Brown verdict. People came from all over the country just to stir up shit, loot, and commit violence because it became an environment where that sort of thing could be expected. I wonder if it’s something like that.

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2407 "2016-03-12T14:11:34Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef;191735  
The only thing I can think of that explains this that’s more evil than stupid is if this is sort of like riot tourism, like you saw after the Michael Brown verdict. People came from all over the country just to stir up shit, loot, and commit violence because it became an environment where that sort of thing could be expected. I wonder if it’s something like that.[/QUOTE]

I thought we were talking about Trump, not VanillaISIS in Oregon

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2408 "2016-03-12T14:42:51Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Who’s stupid enough to hold an anti-Trump rally anyway? What’s the upside there?
> 
> Are you trying to convince Trump supporters that they’re assholes and you’re offended? They’ll be proud of that. They want that.
> 
> Are you trying to bolster Trump’s message that liberals are trying to silence him because he’s telling hard truths? Good job, you played into his message.
> 
> Are you trying to make the mistreatment of people at his rallies not seem so bad by giving the impression that there are troublemakers that attend them? Great.
> 
> There’s no upside to it. You’re not going to gain anything by doing it. You can only lose. Why the fuck would you do it?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The upside (perhaps) is that Trump is destroying the Republican party, and this should be encouraged. 🙂

Encouraged, yes. Interrupted, no.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2409 "2016-03-12T16:54:38Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Encouraged, yes. Interrupted, no.

But if this interruption helps his campaign, it could be a blessing in disguise.

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2410 "2016-03-12T18:55:55Z")

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Look at Trump, running from his rallies. What a pussy.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2411 "2016-03-12T21:43:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Go to a BLM rally and protest them and see how it turns out for you.

Are you saying Trump supporters are militia members?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2412 "2016-03-12T21:50:03Z")

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[Fairfax County third graders told a black classmate that his family we be deported if Trump becomes President.](http://www.snopes.com/fairfax-county-racism-posting/)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2413 "2016-03-13T02:10:14Z")

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And in other news, an IHOP receipt had “black people” on it. Racism is truly beaten if these are now national news stories.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2414 "2016-03-13T02:14:08Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> And in other news, an IHOP receipt had “black people” on it. Racism is truly beaten if these are now national news stories.

Only because(most) bigots know better than to be open about it.

In a way, it’s celebrating jaw-dropping stupidity.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2415 "2016-03-13T02:18:49Z")

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I think it’s more that the media loves racism stories and will look under the most obscure rocks to find it. and by definition if people aren’t willing to express it, it’s beaten.

That’s why the focus on “institutional racism” has value. Some minorities still have obstacles to fully participating in the economic life of the nation, but the challenges are different now. But turning minor incidents into headline news is not helpful, especially since the media avoids minority on minority racism of a much more violent kind, such as the epidemic of Asian kids being targeted for beatings by African-American kids. Wouldn’t want to report that, might inflame some people we don’t want inflamed. Stories about white people messing around with black people inflames people the way we want them inflamed.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2416 "2016-03-13T02:24:56Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> And in other news, an IHOP receipt had “black people” on it. Racism is truly beaten if these are now national news stories.

:rolleyes:

What the article point is really just that old “insignificant” idea that we should always keep into account: “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2417 "2016-03-13T02:42:25Z")

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[An anti-Kasich ad running in Ohio has been pulled from the air because it’s in violation of federal election laws for failing to inform that the ad was paid for by Trump.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/12/this-trump-ad-got-pulled-off-the-air-because-it-broke-the-law-video/)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2418 "2016-03-13T02:44:05Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I think it’s more that the media loves racism stories and will look under the most obscure rocks to find it. and by definition if people aren’t willing to express it, it’s beaten.

That is a horse-puckey point. It is in reality a plea for complacency when there is a lot to do still.

And World Net Daily is pointed as one source of that item about Blacks Targeting Asians, it is not as simple as the right wing sphere wants it to be.

> **[Openish Thread: Is Recent "Black on Asian" Violence a Hate Crime?](https://hyphenmagazine.com/blog/2010/5/3/openish-thread-recent-black-asian-violence-hate-crime)**
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> Recent attacks on Asian Americans by African Americans have left Bay Area Asian American communties frightened and angry. But were these attacks really "hate crimes"?

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> But the police contend that only certain Asians are being targeted, along with certain Latinos, for their age and small stature, because of the vulnerability to attack that this confers. They also cite Asians’ tendency not to report such crimes as an added inducement. They emphasize that it’s only a small minority of African Americans committing these crimes, and that the crimes are violent robberies and not hate crimes.
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> Some African American groups, while deploring the attacks, are doubtful that the attacks are racially motivated. And there is a general grumbling in the community that the media’s handling of the issue emphasizes Asian American fears, while ignoring the roles African Americans have played in getting victims help, and in serving as witnesses that helped catch the perpetrators. There’s concern that the media is playing off of stereotypes and mainstream fears of violent, young, black men – a story told more often than it is true.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2419 "2016-03-13T02:58:04Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> What the article point is really just that old “insignificant” idea that we should always keep into account: “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

If only our media was as vigilant about liberty, or even all racism, as opposed to just racism by white folks. Although they are getting better. Now if you’re a “white Hispanic”, you get judged as a white person if you do something racist. Haven’t read about more dark skinned Hispanics committing racist acts. Media won’t report on that. Too inflammatory.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2420 "2016-03-13T02:59:58Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> That is a horse-puckey point. It is in reality a plea for complacency when there is a lot to do still.
> 
> And World Net Daily is pointed as one source of that item about Blacks Targeting Asians, it is not as simple as the right wing sphere wants it to be.
> 
> [Openish Thread: Is Recent "Black on Asian" Violence a Hate Crime? | Hyphen](http://hyphenmagazine.com/blog/2010/5/3/openish-thread-recent-black-asian-violence-hate-crime)

And how is any of that different from how whites handle such things?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2421 "2016-03-13T04:13:47Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Media won’t report on that. Too inflammatory.

Come on. Look at what you’re saying. The media won’t report on something that’s too inflammatory? Have you seen any media lately?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2422 "2016-03-13T04:19:21Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> If only our media was as vigilant about liberty, or even all racism, as opposed to just racism by white folks. Although they are getting better. Now if you’re a “white Hispanic”, you get judged as a white person if you do something racist. Haven’t read about more dark skinned Hispanics committing racist acts. Media won’t report on that. Too inflammatory.

What it is clear to me is that the Police does not agree on the levels of racist acts you think minorities are committing, you have to realize that it is more likely that once again some sources are pulling a Trump on you.

> **[We Found Where Donald Trump's "Black Crimes" Graphic Came From](https://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45291_We_Found_Where_Donald_Trumps_Black_Crimes_Graphic_Came_From)**
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> So today, this happened. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump (yes, him again) re-tweeted the following blatantly racist graphic: "@SeanSean252: @WayneDupreeShow @Rockprincess818 @CheriJacobus pic.twitter.com/5GUwhhtvyN" — Donald J. Trump...

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2423 "2016-03-13T04:22:56Z")

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Levels of racist acts are low everywhere, thus IHOP receipts being front page national news. The vast majority of whites are not racist.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2424 "2016-03-13T04:27:24Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Levels of racist acts are low everywhere, thus IHOP receipts being front page national news. The vast majority of whites are not racist.

Straw man, but I have to say that I have a problem with many Republicans who are enablers of the less numerous racists.

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