# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2425 "2016-03-13T04:33:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Levels of racist acts are low everywhere, thus IHOP receipts being front page national news. The vast majority of whites are not racist.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but you’re better than this track you’re going down. It may not be your intention, but you’re edging into territory reserved for our more…“uncolorblind” members, if you take my meaning.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2426 "2016-03-13T04:47:08Z")

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I’m hoping I’m not being controversial here. Wouldn’t you agree that most whites, like most African-Americans, Latinos, and Asians, are not racists?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2427 "2016-03-13T04:56:23Z")

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I agree that most people in general aren’t overtly racist. My point to you is that comments like “If only our media was as vigilant about liberty, or even all racism, as opposed to just racism by white folks” may not be the best way to express your concerns.

I’m not accusing you of being racist. But the tone of comments like the one I quoted could be misconstrued that way. That’s all I’m saying.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2428 "2016-03-13T04:59:23Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’m hoping I’m not being controversial here. Wouldn’t you agree that most whites, like most African-Americans, Latinos, and Asians, are not racists?

Either not quite, or just barely “most”. It’s a minority worldview, maybe even uncommon, but not rare.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2429 "2016-03-13T05:07:52Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> Either not quite, or just barely “most”. It’s a minority worldview, maybe even uncommon, but not rare.

No more common or more rare than racism among other groups. We can certainly agree that white racism is more harmful given the history and the fact that whites are the majority, but the media isn’t reporting that when they make receipts a national news story. Thus my point that focusing on things like institutional racism is useful. Focusing on individual people who aren’t even haters but just clueless accomplishes nothing.

I remember also complaining recently about a woman somewhere who had a show nobody listened to who said that a woman shouldn’t be President. Why was this a top trending story? Oh my, someone, somewhere doesn’t think a woman should be President! Let’s cover it!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2430 "2016-03-13T05:11:31Z")

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Looks like protesters tried to disrupt a Trump event in KC now. Pepper spray and arrests all around.

If lefties are going to start trying to use this as a tactic they deserve what they get. Shutting down political events with threats of violence is un-American.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2431 "2016-03-13T05:39:10Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Weak attempt to make this about race.

No.

No fucking way.

There is no way you honestly don’t see how this is all about race.

It simply is not possible.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2432 "2016-03-13T05:41:03Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’m hoping I’m not being controversial here. Wouldn’t you agree that most whites, like most African-Americans, Latinos, and Asians, are not racists?

Only if you agree that most whites don’t support Trump.

Hell, it would be nice to get some recognition of the fact most _Republicans_ don’t support Trump.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2433 "2016-03-13T05:42:07Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Looks like protesters tried to disrupt a Trump event in KC now. Pepper spray and arrests all around.
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> If lefties are going to start trying to use this as a tactic they deserve what they get. Shutting down political events with threats of violence is un-American.

So is shutting down protests just because you don’t like 'em.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2434 "2016-03-13T05:43:46Z")

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Quite true. I don’t. ALthough support for Trump isn’t necessarily coming just from racists, and not all racists like Trump. I refer back to a cab driver I had who hated Obama and foreigners, was a birther, hates Trump, but likes Clinton. Racists like their entitlements too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2435 "2016-03-13T05:53:04Z")

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A young man from North Carolina went to a Trump rally for the giggles. And this is his report.

> **[Jordan Ray Correll](https://www.facebook.com/ThespianJordan/posts/10205652327247693)**
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> DO NOT JUST SCROLL PAST THIS PICTURE WITHOUT READING THIS POST FIRST. THANK YOU.
> So, if you know me or my friend, Seth Quackenboss, then you know that we often get ourselves into ridiculous...

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2436 "2016-03-13T10:47:53Z")

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This just in: [New footage from one of Trump’s rallies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8urkDqSoc54).

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2437 "2016-03-13T11:37:15Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Levels of racist acts are low everywhere, thus IHOP receipts being front page national news. The vast majority of whites are not racist.

When half of Mississippi Republicans think interracial marriage should be illegal, I’m far from certain that the “vast majority” of whites don’t have some racist views.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2438 "2016-03-13T12:08:39Z")

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Whites are not unique. If racism is common, it’s common among all people, and thus all racist incidents are newsworthy, regardless of the race of the victim or perpetrator.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2439 "2016-03-13T12:14:09Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Whites are not unique. If racism is common, it’s common among all people, and thus all racist incidents are newsworthy, regardless of the race of the victim or perpetrator.

Whites are not unique, but the history of racial strife in the US did not affect all groups equally – not even close, obviously, and this might lead to differing levels of racial animus among the various groups today. I don’t know how many white people have racist views, but at least half of Mississippi Republicans do, and the 20% of Trump supporters who think _slavery shouldn’t have ended_ do, etc.

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**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2440 "2016-03-13T12:40:41Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> When half of Mississippi Republicans think interracial marriage should be illegal, I’m far from certain that the “vast majority” of whites don’t have some racist views.

Surely you’ve also researched the percentage of Mississippi blacks who are not in favor of interracial marriage?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2441 "2016-03-13T12:56:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Whites are not unique, but the history of racial strife in the US did not affect all groups equally – not even close, obviously, and this might lead to differing levels of racial animus among the various groups today. I don’t know how many white people have racist views, but at least half of Mississippi Republicans do, and the 20% of Trump supporters who think _slavery shouldn’t have ended_ do, etc.

That’s where we agree, the effect of white racism was greater, thus the emphasis on white racism by the media. That part is justified. What’s not justified is huge publicity for extremely minor offenses. Someone somewhere saying something racist is not headline news. But I guess part of that is that the media itself. Ignorant people make better fodder than the institutional racism of the media.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2442 "2016-03-13T13:24:29Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That’s where we agree, the effect of white racism was greater, thus the emphasis on white racism by the media. That part is justified. What’s not justified is huge publicity for extremely minor offenses. Someone somewhere saying something racist is not headline news. But I guess part of that is that the media itself. Ignorant people make better fodder than the institutional racism of the media.

That’s okay, but that’s not what I was challenging – I was challenging your assertion that the “vast majority” of white people don’t have racist views.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2443 "2016-03-13T13:30:05Z")

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> [@inscrutable](#):
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> Surely you’ve also researched the percentage of Mississippi blacks who are not in favor of interracial marriage?

Not Mississippi in particular, but nationwide, [96% of black people](http://www.gallup.com/poll/163697/approve-marriage-blacks-whites.aspx) support the legality of interracial marriage, and every year that this has been polled _black people’s support for interracial marriage has been significantly higher than white people’s_.

So in terms of interracial marriage, white people nationwide are significantly more likely to have the racist view than black people. Thankfully, fewer and fewer people (white and black) each year hold these racist views, according to polling, though Mississippi Republican voters are obviously way, way behind.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2444 "2016-03-13T14:25:46Z")

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That survey is not about legality of interracial marriages, the question was “Do you approve or disapprove of marriage between Blacks and Whites?”

Whether it should be legal is a different question entirely, one which far fewer would answer no to, presumably.

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