# Trump's Republican primary campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2445 "2016-03-13T14:42:45Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> That survey is not about legality of interracial marriages, the question was “Do you approve or disapprove of marriage between Blacks and Whites?”
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> Whether it should be legal is a different question entirely, one which far fewer would answer no to, presumably.

It’s racist to disapprove of interracial marriage, and it’s racist to believe it should be illegal. Now, private racist beliefs are different (and less harmful) than advocacy for racist laws, but they’re both racist beliefs.

However, I should have noted the difference in the polling question, and thank you for pointing that out.

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2446 "2016-03-13T17:50:54Z")

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Trump is looking into paying the legal fees for Uncle Cleetus and his sucker punch. Will only embolden his supporters. What a fucking piece of trash.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2447 "2016-03-13T18:34:56Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> No.
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> No fucking way.
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> There is no way you honestly don’t see how this is all about race.
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> It simply is not possible.

Not everyone looks at the world through some race or class warfare lens. I look at the world through a suckers who trust the government and those who don’t warfare lens.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2448 "2016-03-13T18:36:17Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So is shutting down protests just because you don’t like 'em.

You have no right to protest on private or reserved property.

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2449 "2016-03-13T19:35:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You have no right to protest on private or reserved property.

People were protesting in public streets. Trump wet his shorts in fear.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2450 "2016-03-13T20:22:48Z")

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> [@Grsz11](#):
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> People were protesting in public streets. Trump wet his shorts in fear.

It’s that what you consider a sign of a healthy democracy, when your political opponents are scared to assemble with their supporters?

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2451 "2016-03-13T21:19:47Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> It’s that what you consider a sign of a healthy democracy, when your political opponents are scared to assemble with their supporters?

No, but it is hypocritical for Trump to complain when at the same time he plans to pay for a legal defense for a supporter who clocked someone.

I’m just waiting for the teabaggers to go full insurgency. And be put down accordingly. There’s evidence they are trending that way.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2452 "2016-03-14T02:51:16Z")

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Turns out Sanders supporters did do it, although the Sanders campaign wasn’t behind it. This shouldn’t be too surprising, given that Sanders and Trump supporters overlap a bit.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2453 "2016-03-14T04:12:28Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Not everyone looks at the world through some race or class warfare lens. I look at the world through a suckers who trust the government and those who don’t warfare lens.

I notice how you only talk about race and class warfare when people are noticing how certain rich people are benefiting unjustly, and how certain white people are racist shitheads.

Nice job trying to make this a pro-government/anti-government thing, by the way; that distraction has done yeoman work in the past, but I think you’ll find it falls a bit flat here.

The GOP: We Aren’t Racist Because… Hey, Look Over There! Socialism!

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2454 "2016-03-14T04:30:55Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> I notice how you only talk about race and class warfare when people are noticing how certain rich people are benefiting unjustly, and how certain white people are racist shitheads.
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> Nice job trying to make this a pro-government/anti-government thing, by the way; that distraction has done yeoman work in the past, but I think you’ll find it falls a bit flat here.
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> The GOP: We Aren’t Racist Because… Hey, Look Over There! Socialism!

You are telling me how I think. I think I know my own mind better.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2455 "2016-03-14T06:03:37Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You are telling me how I think. I think I know my own mind better.

You are completely failing to refute any of my arguments.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2456 "2016-03-14T06:27:49Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> You are completely failing to refute any of my arguments.

You aren’t making any sense. You are telling me what I think. How can I refute the “arguments” of one so arrogant? I said “rabble”. You turned that into race baiting. If you ever saw a left wing protest you’d see rabble doesn’t imply monolithic race. It’d imply jobless, smelly people who want more of what other people earn.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2457 "2016-03-14T07:57:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> It’d imply jobless, **smelly** people who want more of what other people earn.

(Emphasis mine.)

Really, anything I could add here would be superfluous.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2458 "2016-03-14T09:26:07Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> He was doing a fine enough job on his own. This just makes it look like he has a point. He was a completely fucking clownish non-victim with his “they’re trying to silence me!” nonsense. Now someone actually tried to silence him.
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> The guy was a joke. He’s got his 40% of republican primary voter hateful asshole support, and no one else likes him. But you make him look like the victim, you make him look like he may actually have a point, and suddenly his support starts widening, and people start voting for him just to spite what they see as liberal hypocrites.

I know this is going back a little bit, but I disagree with this point.

It’s easy to say up until now that Trump has been regarded as a clown talking nonsense, but he’s been winning primaries. And 40% support is as close as anyone is likely to get to an endorsement in a divided field.

But now, with these clashes, I really think this is something that could hurt him. To what degree he’s culpable (which is a large degree IMO) is largely irrelevant: it’s a preview of what the country might start to look like under his leadership, and I think a lot of conservatives may recoil from that.

(And yeah I’m using somewhat guarded language because we’re already in unknown territory…)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2459 "2016-03-14T10:36:32Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> Is that really what you think of when you think of Brownshirts and fascists? People who respond to the disruption _of their own rallies_ by manhandling the disruptors out the door?
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> The side trying to curtail the free expression and assembly of those who’s political opinions they object to would be more reasonably compared to fascists, not the people who’s rally was shut down.

I’m thinking the supporters of the candidate who openly said that if elected [he’d change to law to allow him to go after anyone criticizing him](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment)are probably currently winning the “more fascist than thou” competition.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2460 "2016-03-14T19:16:48Z")

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[Trump supporters parked on a cemetery next door to his rally and rolled over the gravestones, damaging several.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/03/14/image-trump-supporters-at-illinois-rally-damage-at-least-a-dozen-gravesites/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2461 "2016-03-14T19:18:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Trump supporters parked on a cemetery next door to his rally and rolled over the gravestones, damaging several.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/03/14/image-trump-supporters-at-illinois-rally-damage-at-least-a-dozen-gravesites/)

Well, not quite, – actually, that damage was caused by some vigorous rolling going on **under** the gravestones.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2462 "2016-03-14T20:48:37Z")

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[Pastor at a Trump rally says Bernie Sanders needs to convert to Christianity.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/pastor-kicks-off-trump-rally-by-calling-for-bernie-sanders-to-convert-bernies-got-to-meet-jesus/)

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2463 "2016-03-14T21:15:50Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m thinking the supporters of the candidate who openly said that if elected [he’d change to law to allow him to go after anyone criticizing him](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment)are probably currently winning the “more fascist than thou” competition.

It doesn’t suprise me one bit that Trump would rather have libel laws that looked like Britain’s so he could sue people that lied about him. This is yet another thing I disagree with him on.

Anyway…I don’t suppose you have heard Bernie ranting to his supporters about how the Koch brothers are too influential and promising to take care of them when he is president…

And of course his supporters are already organizing to try to shut down the political speech of their opponents…

So, um, yeah…

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2464 "2016-03-14T21:18:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Pastor at a Trump rally says Bernie Sanders needs to convert to Christianity.](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/pastor-kicks-off-trump-rally-by-calling-for-bernie-sanders-to-convert-bernies-got-to-meet-jesus/)

BREAKING: Christian Pastor Loves Jesus and Thinks You Should Too, Tune in at 11:00 to find out how to protect yourself.

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