# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 126
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2505 "2016-03-15T19:13:49Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > By way of the “mainstream,” “establishment” Pubs preparing the ground for it. As has been said on this Board, “You can’t spend 30 years dry-humping the crazy and then act surprised when the crazy wants to fuck.” And now republicans that have a conscience (yes, they do exist!) are not willing to be f\*\*\*ed by Trump the neo authoritarian. [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/business/media/upheaval-at-breitbart-news-as-workers-resign-and-accusations-fly.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/business/media/upheaval-at-breitbart-news-as-workers-resign-and-accusations-fly.html?_r=0) > [@](#): > > As a proudly renegade voice of the populist right, Breitbart News has long delighted in bedeviling liberals and establishment Republicans alike, emerging in recent years as one of the nation’s leading conservative media outlets. > > But in an ironic twist, Breitbart, a news and opinion website that welcomed the rise of Donald J. Trump as an outsider candidate, is now facing a problem similar to the one roiling the Republican Party it likes to torment: a scathing internal dispute, with Mr. Trump at its center. > > Several top executives and journalists at the site have resigned in the last week, saying the organization has turned into a shill for the Trump campaign and failed to support Michelle Fields, a Breitbart reporter who accused Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, of grabbing and shoving her at a Florida rally last week. > > Ms. Fields reported the episode to the police, and a journalist for The Washington Post, Ben Terris, identified Mr. Lewandowski as the person who grabbed her. The Trump campaign has denied Ms. Fields’s account, and Breitbart, after initially requesting an apology, later published an article casting doubt on whether Mr. Lewandowski was involved. > > In a telephone interview, Ms. Fields, who also resigned on Monday, said that she “felt like my employer was working with the Trump campaign to assassinate my character.” > > “They were more interested in protecting Trump and coordinating with him on a message than they were about finding out the truth,” said Ms. Fields, who is 28. Messages left with Breitbart executives on Monday were not answered, and the site’s spokesman was among the employees who quit. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2506 "2016-03-15T19:14:43Z")
The Golden Age of the Hippy argument. Protesters were noble in the 60’s, but now that protestors no longer wear love beads or bell bottoms, they’re unintelligent and unprincipled all of a sudden. In this case, it sounds like “unintelligent and unprincipled” just equals, “hey, don’t say that stuff about my guy!” ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2507 "2016-03-15T19:18:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > _Noam_ Chomsky. Bob _Dylan_. Intimately familiar… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2508 "2016-03-15T19:36:14Z")
Well, kids these days. Wear their hair all funny. And they call that _music_! Just a bunch of noise, you ask me… ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2509 "2016-03-15T19:38:23Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > The Golden Age of the Hippy argument. > > Protesters were noble in the 60’s, but now that protestors no longer wear love beads or bell bottoms, they’re unintelligent and unprincipled all of a sudden. In this case, it sounds like “unintelligent and unprincipled” just equals, “hey, don’t say that stuff about my guy!” Well, back then it was the Hippy’s political gatherings that were interrupted and shut down by the mainstream powers that be, and mobs of people convinced by the media that the hippies were a menace. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2510 "2016-03-15T19:42:15Z")
Apparently the [National Black Republican Association](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-black-republicans/)endorsed Trump back in January. This sure didn’t get much exposure. The media must have been too busy trying to make sure everyone knew that Trump founded the KKK to give it much play. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2511 "2016-03-15T19:46:54Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > rofl oh boy you could not be more wrong. > > I am intimately familiar with them. Other than the plentiful lefty-activist types in my social circle, I have interacted with mobs of them at Rainbow Gatherings, Grateful Dead shows, Occupy rallies, anti-KKK protests, and elsewhere. Well, I haven’t, but I have been intimately or casually acquainted with various hard-lefty types over the years, and practically all of them were intelligent, rational, tolerant of dissent, hardworking and well-groomed. Even the Marxists – heck, even the **anarchists.** ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2512 "2016-03-15T19:50:55Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Apparently the [National Black Republican Association](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-black-republicans/)endorsed Trump back in January. This sure didn’t get much exposure. The media must have been too busy trying to make sure everyone knew that Trump founded the KKK to give it much play. 😃 Somehow I don’t read an endorsement by the National Black Republican Association as any kind of credentials for non-racism. Neither is Ben Carson’s presence on the debate-stage. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2513 "2016-03-15T19:53:16Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Apparently the [National Black Republican Association](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-black-republicans/)endorsed Trump back in January. This sure didn’t get much exposure. The media must have been too busy trying to make sure everyone knew that Trump founded the KKK to give it much play. 😃 And yet there it is, on CNN’s web site, in front of God and everybody. Seriously, though, I always enjoy the argument “Media are biased because they don’t sufficiently trumpet whatever I personally think is important”. Feel free to explain exactly how much and how long this story should have dominated the news cycle, and why. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2514 "2016-03-15T20:15:33Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > And yet there it is, on CNN’s web site, in front of God and everybody. > > Seriously, though, I always enjoy the argument “Media are biased because they don’t sufficiently trumpet whatever I personally think is important”. Feel free to explain exactly how much and how long this story should have dominated the news cycle, and why. Enough that I would have heard of it would have been nice. That would have merely taken CNN replacing one of the thousand or so times I saw them mentioning David Duke’s endorsement with news of this endorsement. Why? Because they are an actual mainstream Republican organization, not a fringe race huckster and provocateur like Duke. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2515 "2016-03-15T20:16:23Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Apparently the [National Black Republican Association](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-black-republicans/)endorsed Trump back in January. This sure didn’t get much exposure. Why should it? Judging from [their official website](http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/) (a page on [blogspot.com](http://blogspot.com)), the NBRA represents exactly one person, Lieutenant Colonel Frances Rice, United States Army, Retired. No other principals are listed, and no membership is claimed. The [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Black_Republican_Association) has nothing either, and all the references on Google point to a one-woman operation, Frances Rice, who looks to be an empty skirt. The Sarasota Herald Tribune [published a lengthy profile](http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080803/ARTICLE/808030351/0/SPORTS0401?p=1&tc=pg) of the NBRA in 2008 and Right Wing Watch noted that it has been [all downhill since then](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/what-national-black-republican-association): > [@](#): > > The article notes that Palm Beach County Republican Party donated $20,000 to start the NBRA back in 2005 and, since then, “nearly everyone else originally part of the NBRA … has since dropped out. The original board included eight members from around the country, and Rice’s husband. In a matter of months, all the board members except Rice, her husband and Cadogan resigned.” Apparently the final straw came after Rice insisted on sending out a press release praising President Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina. So, yeah, no story there. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2516 "2016-03-15T20:18:28Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Somehow I don’t read an endorsement by the National Black Republican Association as any kind of credentials for non-racism. Neither is Ben Carson’s presence on the debate-stage. Ah yes, black people are less black when they disagree with you. Maybe if your plan to get control over who can run the printing presses works out, you can straighten them up for us. Everybody will be in your debt. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2517 "2016-03-15T20:20:02Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Ah yes, black people are less black when they disagree with you. In this case they are also less people; see post #2511. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2518 "2016-03-15T20:26:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Why should it? Judging from [their official website](http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/) (a page on [blogspot.com](http://blogspot.com)), the NBRA represents exactly one person Even if that is the case, her opinion is eminently more worthy of being considered than the opinion of a loser like David Duke. The media gave Duke massive exposure, in order to vilify Trump by associating the two together, with no reasonable basis for doing so. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2519 "2016-03-15T20:31:06Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Even if that is the case, her opinion is eminently more worthy of being considered than the opinion of a loser like David Duke. The media gave Duke massive exposure, in order to vilify Trump by associating the two together, **with no reasonable basis for doing so.** Not even you can possibly believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2520 "2016-03-15T20:35:02Z")
Carson says the reason he endorsed Trump is because he sees him as the only possible Republican candidate who can win the general election. However, he also claims that Trump may or may not have offered him a government position, [which is a violation of federal law.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760261/carson-offered-position-by-trump/) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2521 "2016-03-15T20:36:05Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Even if that is the case, her opinion is eminently more worthy of being considered than the opinion of a loser like David Duke. Really? David Duke was the [Republican Party candidate for Governor of Louisiana in 1991](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_history_of_David_Duke#Governor_of_Louisiana.2C_1991), forced a runoff election against the Democrat Edwin Edwards, and garnered 39% of the electorate with 671,009 votes. What is Rice’s claim to fame? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2522 "2016-03-15T20:43:55Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Enough that I would have heard of it would have been nice. That would have merely taken CNN replacing one of the thousand or so times I saw them mentioning David Duke’s endorsement with news of this endorsement. Why? Because they are an actual mainstream Republican organization, not a fringe race huckster and provocateur like Duke. So, if I take your point, news organizations should allot equal headline space to every endorsement by any organization with the ability to create a web site and a press release? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2523 "2016-03-15T20:58:11Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Even if that is the case, her opinion is eminently more worthy of being considered than the opinion of a loser like David Duke. The media gave Duke massive exposure, in order to vilify Trump by associating the two together, with no reasonable basis for doing so. I don’t buy this argument either. If CNN and other media organizations are so determined to bring down Mr. Trump, why are they giving him so much free media exposure? I mean every news station has been pretty much the Trump Channel since the beginning of the year. I’m pretty sure I know a perfectly reasonable answer to that question. I wonder if you do. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2524 "2016-03-15T21:05:58Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Nome Chomsky and Bob Dillon were ingredients in my mother’s milk. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Apparently the [National Black Republican Association](http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-black-republicans/)endorsed Trump back in January. This sure didn’t get much exposure. The media must have been too busy trying to make sure everyone knew that Trump founded the KKK to give it much play. 😃 > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > And yet there it is, on CNN’s web site, in front of God and everybody. > > Seriously, though, I always enjoy the argument “Media are biased because they don’t sufficiently trumpet whatever I personally think is important”. Feel free to explain exactly how much and how long this story should have dominated the news cycle, and why. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Enough that I would have heard of it would have been nice. That would have merely taken CNN replacing one of the thousand or so times I saw them mentioning David Duke’s endorsement with news of this endorsement. Why? Because they are an actual mainstream Republican organization, not a fringe race huckster and provocateur like Duke. > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Why should it? Judging from [their official website](http://blackrepublican.blogspot.com/) (a page on [blogspot.com](http://blogspot.com)), the NBRA represents exactly one person, Lieutenant Colonel Frances Rice, United States Army, Retired. No other principals are listed, and no membership is claimed. The [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Black_Republican_Association) has nothing either, and all the references on Google point to a one-woman operation, Frances Rice, who looks to be an empty skirt. The Sarasota Herald Tribune [published a lengthy profile](http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080803/ARTICLE/808030351/0/SPORTS0401?p=1&tc=pg) of the NBRA in 2008 and Right Wing Watch noted that it has been [all downhill since then](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/what-national-black-republican-association): > > So, yeah, no story there. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Even if that is the case, her opinion is eminently more worthy of being considered than the opinion of a loser like David Duke. The media gave Duke massive exposure, in order to vilify Trump by associating the two together, with no reasonable basis for doing so. I can’t tell whether to be more embarrassed or amused. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=125) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=127)