# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 130
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2585 "2016-03-16T21:00:25Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Kasich easily has the lowest name recognition of the candidates. And even worse, his name sounds like “Kucinich” – of whom it has been written that “his name sounds more like ‘Dukakis’ than ‘Dukakis’ does.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2586 "2016-03-16T21:01:47Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Maybe there’ll be riots if he wins, too. Time to start buying stock in whatever companies make riot gear . . . ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2587 "2016-03-16T21:04:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > It’ll be real interesting to see what Trump says to AIPAC instead of appearing at the Faux debate. It’ll be bombastic & combative for sure. But will it be aimed at those nasty AYE-rabs or at the Sheldon Adelman’s of the world? His base is probably equally annoyed with both sides. Who ain’t? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2588 "2016-03-16T21:06:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Time to start buying stock in whatever companies make riot gear . . . This is the part where we realize it’s TrumpCo. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2589 "2016-03-16T21:07:59Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > This is the part where we realize it’s TrumpCo. Or, if it ain’t, they’ll have diversified into that line by the time the convention starts. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2590 "2016-03-16T21:11:40Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > “As usual Trump does a neat trick, claim that his position is a popular one among all Americans when it is just mostly popular among Republicans.” > > I wonder how many of “these tricks” are all Trump ideas , I be he has an army of people brainstorming ideas for him. Well, no one should be amazed of how the media falls for them. I still do remember how they fell for Trump’s bullshit that he won the Hispanic vote in Nevada. That 45% percent of Hispanic support for the republican was really just about less than 3000 Hispanic supporters out of about 194,000 registered voters from Nevada who are Hispanic. > **[No Trump – you are not “number one with Hispanics” in Nevada](https://latinodecisions.com/blog/no-trump-you-are-not-number-one-with-hispanics-in-nevada/)** > > Donald Trump won the Republican Nevada caucuses and in his victory speech Tuesday night he bragged about winning "the Hispanics" as he likes to say. He told his ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2591 "2016-03-16T21:25:49Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Duke’s is less than meaningless. Even if the National Black Republican Association is just that one lady, she is an active Republican in good standing, not a pariah like Duke. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > It’s like of you were to keep pestering me about being a Paraguayan nationalist. After denying it a few time I might get tired of the whole back and forth by saying “WTF I don’t even know anything about Paraguay, I’ve never even been there, dude”. > > And then you could drag out my fourth grade geography lesson to prove that I did, in fact, know something about Paraguay all along, and must therefore be a filthy Paraguayan nationalist. **Hank Beecher** , I must admit I find your cognitive patterns interesting. > [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Trump is the leading GOP candidate … > > David Duke is is a race huckster … You seem to have different views of Trump and Duke. Duke was a candidate for a major office, winning 55% of the white-skinned vote in his bid for Governor of Louisiana. Trump has yet to run in a general election. Duke has bad-mouthed Mexico (“I don’t want to see this country resemble or look like or become like Mexico. Mexico is great to visit, I’ve been there a few times. I respect all peoples of the world.”) but so has Trump. If there’s a fundamental difference between the two, would you expound on it, please? (One possible difference: Trump has condoned violence by his supporters. Has Duke?) ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2592 "2016-03-16T22:15:02Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You seem to have different views of Trump and Duke. Duke was a candidate for a major office Yes, a losing candidate.\* Twenty five years ago.\* In a state with only four million people in it. > [@](#): > > Trump has yet to run in a general election. He is _currently_ running for the most powerful position on earth, and is the leading candidate for the party that has held the office for the majority of the time since the party formed a century and a half ago. > [@](#): > > Duke has bad-mouthed Mexico (“I don’t want to see this country resemble or look like or become like Mexico. Mexico is great to visit, I’ve been there a few times. I respect all peoples of the world.”) but so has Trump. So what? Duke has bad mouthed Israel but so has Dennis Kucinich. > [@](#): > > If there’s a fundamental difference between the two, would you expound on it, please? Duke is a a fiercely anti-Semitic racial supremacist, who advocates racial segregation and eugenics, denies the Holocaust, glorifies Nazis, vilifies Jews and blacks as racially inferior, and pushes an extreme racialist nationalism. He is vehemently opposed to the existence of Israel, mixed marriages, and all immigrants. He instructs his followers to estrange themselves from family members who “betray their race” by dating non-white people or converting to “non-white religions”. He is un-influential outside of a very small, incestuous, circle, with no mainstream figures who currently endorse him or even tolerate him. He is a pariah. His hardcore supporters number in the hundreds, those sympathetic to him the thousands. Trump is a multi-racial nativist who’s ideology is explicitly and strongly inclusive of all citizens, and inclusive of legal immigrants to a smaller but significant degree. The very persuasive “we are all Americans” is one of the slogans you will hear from his supporters the most. There is no racialist component to his message whatsoever. He has support from many prominent people, many of whom are black, including the only prominent black candidate in the current race. He repeatedly claims to be a friend of Israel. His daughter, who campaigns for him, has converted to Judaism. He strongly advocates acting to curb illegal immigration. He vilifies illegal immigrants as criminals, and has supported temporarily denying Muslims entry into the United States. He is currently the leading GOP candidate for president. Millions of Americans have voted for him in the last few months. > [@](#): > > Trump has condoned violence by his supporters. Example? In all of the cases I have seen he was condoning a violent reaction _to violence._ ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2593 "2016-03-16T22:18:14Z")
So you have abandoned any defense of the NBRA endorsement? ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2594 "2016-03-16T22:24:05Z")
Trump supporters excuse old man sucker punching protester. They say that he may have [had a flashback to the civil war, gotten angry at the protesters for startling him and making him pee his Depends, or may have simply had a senior moment.](https://youtu.be/1GqnsbN0OeE?t=405) ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2595 "2016-03-16T22:27:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So you have abandoned any defense of the NBRA endorsement? [You do not seem to have replied to my last statement of that exchange](https://youtu.be/1GqnsbN0OeE?t=405), so if anyone is slinking away… Anyway, why would the endorsement need my defense? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2596 "2016-03-16T22:33:11Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Example? In all of the cases I have seen he was condoning a violent reaction _to violence._ He condoned the old guy punching the non-violent protester, and said he’d consider paying his legal fees. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2597 "2016-03-16T22:34:47Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Anyway, why would the endorsement need my defense? Because you were the one who touted it to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2598 "2016-03-16T23:01:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Because you were the one who touted it to begin with. My point was that the decision of CNN to loop the Duke endorsement stories, giving it thousands of times as much coverage, is not based on the story’s inherent newsworthiness, but on the media’s dual goal of sensationally driving ratings and vilifying Trump. Even the NBRA turned out to be an un-influential body, they are not GOP pariahs, as far as anyone has shown. The story might not have deserved any more press that it got, but that still doesn’t mean that the Duke endorsement deserved 1000x more. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2599 "2016-03-16T23:33:41Z")
Trump campaign volunteer spotted with [white supremacist tattoos.](http://gawker.com/pbs-news-story-on-first-time-trump-voters-prominently-f-1765284316) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2600 "2016-03-16T23:37:42Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > My point was that the decision of CNN to loop the Duke endorsement stories, giving it thousands of times as much coverage, is not based on the story’s inherent newsworthiness . . . It is based on **Trump’s** newsworthiness. **Everything** that he does or happens to him gets 10 times as much coverage as WRT any other candidate. “If it bleeds, it leads.” Trump is an open wound of endless hemophiliac bounty. Any instance where that does not happen must be a non-story by even the most generous standards – like, that NBRA endorsement. If the NAACP endorsed Trump, **that** would be headline news. Also a sign of the End Times. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2601 "2016-03-16T23:44:37Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump campaign volunteer spotted with [white supremacist tattoos.](http://gawker.com/pbs-news-story-on-first-time-trump-voters-prominently-f-1765284316) What, the Celtic Cross is . . . it’s an **Irish** symbol! She got it just for St. Patrick’s Day! And “88” just means she plays piano! ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2602 "2016-03-17T00:11:34Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He condoned the old guy punching the non-violent protester, and said he’d consider paying his legal fees. Sure, that is reasonably interpreted as condoning violence, I suppose. When he said he was looking into it he said he wanted to know what the kid said and did before hand. So, he seems to be implying that there is a point at which, if someone goes out of their way to seek out a group of people and antagonize them, that violence towards that person is excusable, or at least understandable. That’s a pretty confrontational stance for a traditional candidate for president to take towards protesters. But Trump is not a traditional candidate. He is selling himself as the voice of the people. And his attitude towards those who seek out groups of people, and instigate confrontations with them by insulting and antagonizing them, is very common among Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2603 "2016-03-17T00:21:57Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > It is based on **Trump’s** newsworthiness. **Everything** that he does or happens to him gets 10 times as much coverage as WRT any other candidate. “If it bleeds, it leads.” Trump is an open wound of endless hemophiliac bounty. Any instance where that does not happen must be a non-story by even the most generous standards – like, that NBRA endorsement. If the NAACP endorsed Trump, **that** would be headline news. Also a sign of the End Times. Nothing you wrote addresses the fact that the Duke endorsement got far more coverage than _other Trump stories_. If CNN were as desperate to prove Trump was not a racist, as they are to prove that he single-handily invented the KKK, then instead you would see other marginal (and not so marginal) figures and stories mentioned in constant repetition in association with the Trump brand. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2604 "2016-03-17T00:26:09Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Nothing you wrote addresses the fact that the Duke endorsement got far more coverage than _other Trump stories_. Don’t know that for a fact, but, if so . . . If it leads, it bleeds. If Trump is a wound, Duke is an ever-spurting severed artery. The synergy is irresistible. The level of coverage would be astonishing if it were any **less.** And, on top of that, this **does** have immense legitimate news value, for many obvious reasons, however much and however long you strive to deny it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=129) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=131)