# Trump's Republican primary campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 3, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828 "2015-09-03T18:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2625 "2016-03-18T01:52:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As I just posted in the Pit thread, Trump has recently cracked 50% support for the first time, polling at 53% in [this poll](https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/) of Republican primary voters. I was talking about all voters, as surveys show when doing matches against the democrats. [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton) [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-sanders) Indeed about 40%, 41% to be more precise now and it has to be noted that Trump was a bit higher until this month. Still the point made early stands, it was really shameful what Trump is doing by only confirming and pandering to the ignorance of his supporters. Unless of course he is also an ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2626 "2016-03-18T02:12:30Z")
I’m embarrassed it’s that high, that 40% of all voters would support him. In a decent world, it would be no more than 5% tops. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2627 "2016-03-18T02:15:08Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I was talking about all voters, as surveys show when doing matches against the democrats. I suppose one can pick and choose which groups of voters polled gives the most credence to their position, but I think it’s becoming obvious that Trump’s support and poll numbers are both steadily on the rise. Once upon a time he was said to be stuck around 25%. Then it 30%. Then for quite a while 33%. Then it crept above 40%. And now, at least among the country’s primary voters it appears to have topped 50%. And we’re still eight months from the election. To be honest, I’ve come to have second thoughts about Trump and am no longer in his corner to the degree I once was. But I’m very put out with the way the powers that be in the Republican party are seeking to thwart the will of the people…almost to the degree that it’s driving me somewhat back into Trump’s camp just to see them get their ass handed to them. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2628 "2016-03-18T02:19:10Z")
[The Trump surge is leading some Pub pundits to admit that “every bad Democrats have said about the GOP is basically true.”](http://www.salon.com/2016/03/17/the_rights_shocking_admission_stunned_by_trumps_dominance_some_gop_pundits_concede_that_dems_have_been_right_about_republicans_all_along/) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2629 "2016-03-18T02:23:43Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’m embarrassed it’s that high, that 40% of all voters would support him. In a decent world, it would be no more than 5% tops. The recent dissent shown by more than a few right wing media reporters, editors and even Republican politicians gives me a cautious optimism that more than just a significant amount of moderate, smart and conscientious Republicans will break ranks and vote democrat this time. I think that once the candidates are set, and if we get Trump, there will be more support for (most likely) Hillary in November. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2630 "2016-03-18T02:33:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I suppose one can pick and choose which groups of voters polled gives the most credence to their position, but I think it’s becoming obvious that Trump’s support and poll numbers are both steadily on the rise. Once upon a time he was said to be stuck around 25%. Then it 30%. Then for quite a while 33%. Then it crept above 40%. And now, at least among the country’s primary voters it appears to have topped 50%. > > And we’re still eight months from the election. Among Republicans, yes, not among all Americans. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > To be honest, I’ve come to have second thoughts about Trump and am no longer in his corner to the degree I once was. But I’m very put out with the way the powers that be in the Republican party are seeking to thwart the will of the people…almost to the degree that it’s driving me somewhat back into Trump’s camp just to see them get their ass handed to them. Well, to be honest, me and many liberals in the SDMB were on the record of wanting to see Trump as the candidate, as he was all along the Republican with the worst chances to win in the general election. I was only queasy about that for the reason that I do expect a lot of violence directed at minorities like me and my family the closer we get to November coming from supporters of Trump like Joe Arpaio and minions, even if we are citizens the reality is that inciting prejudice like Trump is doing not only affects illegals. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2631 "2016-03-18T02:36:03Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > … moderate, smart and conscientious Republicans … Haha! I can’t stop laughing at this phrase. It’s a knee-slapper. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2632 "2016-03-18T02:36:29Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I think that once the candidates are set, and if we get Trump, there will be more support for (most likely) Hillary in November. You guys keep saying things like this, and yet there’s this frantic, fearful tone to many of the board’s posts that Trump may actually wind up getting elected. And this despite the fact that by all accounts Trump would be a far more moderate president from the liberal point of view than Ted Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2633 "2016-03-18T02:55:14Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Haha! I can’t stop laughing at this phrase. It’s a knee-slapper. Well, I did say “significant”. In statistical terms it really means very few, but they do exist and they will make a difference IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2634 "2016-03-18T02:57:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You guys keep saying things like this, and yet there’s this frantic, fearful tone to many of the board’s posts that Trump may actually wind up getting elected. And this despite the fact that by all accounts Trump would be a far more moderate president from the liberal point of view than Ted Cruz. But at least Cruz would have **some** notion of what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2635 "2016-03-18T03:01:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You guys keep saying things like this, and yet there’s this frantic, fearful tone to many of the board’s posts that Trump may actually wind up getting elected. And this despite the fact that by all accounts Trump would be a far more moderate president from the liberal point of view than Ted Cruz. If there is no fear then one gets just complacency, I’m an optimist only by taking into account that many will not be complacent in this election. And, more moderate than Cruz? Well, that it is a very small bar to get over. [QUOTE] Ted Cruz (R) Texas is America's number one Climate Denier. This is the first of a series of videos designed to show how divorced from reality he is, and how stupid he thinks his followers are. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2636 "2016-03-18T03:17:22Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You guys keep saying things like this, and yet there’s this frantic, fearful tone to many of the board’s posts that Trump may actually wind up getting elected. And this despite the fact that by all accounts Trump would be a far more moderate president from the liberal point of view than Ted Cruz. Oh, you’re right. Especially with today’s big reveal of his distinct foreign policy team, his worldwide welcoming of as many Muslims to the States, and his apology of building a wall on the Mexican border. His admitting of being a spoiled brat and not a politician nor any real business experience to lead a country was humble to say the least. Tomorrow we should hear about him refunding the dupes who attended his failed school and he’ll also admit that junk bonds to build a building isn’t really business savvy. Definitely more moderate from the liberal point of view. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2637 "2016-03-18T03:19:56Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > But at least Cruz would have **some** notion of what he’s doing. Unfortunately, that consists of destroying the basis of the government. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2638 "2016-03-18T12:23:41Z")
The _Economist Intelligence Unit_ [has ranked the threats to the global economy in order of severity](https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk): [ul] [li] 20 (High probability, Very high impact)[/li] **China experiences a hard landing** [li] 16 (High probability, High impact)[/li] **Russia’s interventions in Ukraine and Syria precede a new “cold war”** [li] 16 (High probability, High impact)[/li] **Currency volatility culminates in an emerging markets corporate debt crisis** [li] 15 (Moderate probability, Very high impact)[/li] **Beset by external and internal pressures, the EU begins to fracture** [li] 15 (Moderate probability, Very high impact)[/li] **“Grexit” is followed by a euro zone break-up** [li] 12 (Moderate probability, High impact)[/li] _ **Donald Trump wins the US presidential election** _ [li] 12 (Moderate probability, High impact)[/li] **The rising threat of jihadi terrorism destabilises the global economy** [li] 8 (Low probability, High impact)[/li] **The UK votes to leave the EU** [li] 8 (Low probability, High impact)[/li] **Chinese expansionism prompts a clash of arms in the South China Sea** [li] 4 (Very low probability, High impact)[/li] **A collapse in investment in the oil sector prompts a future oil price shock** [/ul] Trump supporters should be pleased to note that, since a win in November has only “moderate probability”, the net risk of a Trump Presidency is less than that of a new cold war with Russia, and no more than the risks due to Islamist terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2639 "2016-03-18T14:31:53Z")
[_The Economist_ Intelligence Unit’s new global risk assessment (scale of 1 to 25):](https://gfs.eiu.com/Archive.aspx?archiveType=globalrisk) > [@](#): > > 20 China experiences a hard landing > 16 Russia’s interventions in Ukraine and Syria precede a new “cold war” > 16 Currency volatility culminates in an emerging markets corporate debt crisis > 15 Beset by external and internal pressures, the EU begins to fracture > 15 “Grexit” is followed by a euro zone break-up > \*\*12 Donald Trump wins the US presidential election \*\* > 12 The rising threat of jihadi terrorism destabilises the global economy > 8 The UK votes to leave the EU > 8 Chinese expansionism prompts a clash of arms in the South China Sea > 4 A collapse in investment in the oil sector prompts a future oil price shock They now consider a Trump presidency an equal or greater threat to the global economy than jihadi terrorism, and just slightly a lesser threat than an EU/Eurozone breakup. [Reasons given:](https://gfs.eiu.com/Article.aspx?articleType=gr&articleId=2866) > [@](#): > > Thus far Mr Trump has given very few details of his policies - and these tend to be prone to constant revision - but a few themes have become apparent. First, he has been exceptionally hostile towards free trade, including notably NAFTA, and has repeatedly labelled China as a “currency manipulator”. He has also taken an exceptionally right-wing stance on the Middle East and jiadhi terrorism, including, among other things, advocating the killing of families of terrorists and launching a land incursion into Syria to wipe out IS (and acquire its oil). In the event of a Trump victory, his hostile attitude to free trade, and alienation of Mexico and China in particular, could escalate rapidly into a trade war - and at the least scupper the Trans-Pacific Partnership between the US and 11 other American and Asian states signed in February 2016. His militaristic tendencies towards the Middle East (and ban on all Muslim travel to the US) would be a potent recruitment tool for jihadi groups, increasing their threat both within the region and beyond. ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2640 "2016-03-18T14:42:32Z")
Would that be the same \*The Economist \*Magazine owned by Clinton’s friend and supporter [Lynn Forester de Rothschild](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/250)? ---
**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2641 "2016-03-18T14:53:41Z")
Meanwhile the largest newspaper in Israel [endorses](http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trumps-the-israeli-media/) Literally Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2642 "2016-03-18T15:00:25Z")
> [@Hank\_Beecher](#): > > Would that be the same \*The Economist \*Magazine owned by Clinton’s friend and supporter [Lynn Forester de Rothschild](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/250)? No, you’re right, Trump’s a teddy bear who will make the world all lollipops and unicorns. A chicken in every pot. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2643 "2016-03-18T15:04:03Z")
> **[Anonymous says it's hacking Trump](https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/technology/trump-hack-anonymous/index.html?iid=hp-toplead-dom)** > > Members of hacking collective, Anonymous, have a new target: they're taking aim at Donald Trump. For once, I applaud Anonymous. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828/2644 "2016-03-18T15:08:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > [Anonymous says it's hacking Trump](http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/technology/trump-hack-anonymous/index.html?iid=hp-toplead-dom) > > For once, I applaud Anonymous. You’re applauding releasing phone numbers and addresses of Trump’s family? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-republican-primary-campaign/729828.md?page=133)